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| I'm looking for a pink of some sort. This one needs to be pretty tall as far as my usual climbers go, and that's part of my problem in deciding who would work. Then, the pergola gets too much shade to reliably consider a tea, most hybrid teas, etc. I could go with my old standy who would work, New Dawn, but I'm really hoping there is another full pink rose who will do well given the limitations. I'd like more color than New Dawn, too, if possible. I may end up having to use another trooper, Rural England, but I'd love a rose with larger flowers for this prime spot :) I originally planned on Cl Maman Cochet, but she's complaining enough about the cold winter we had without adding a fair bit of shade to boot! She's scratched off the possibilities, darnit. Singles are a possibility if the flowers are large or noticeable, btw. I have a gorgeous Pink Mermaid who would look great if she liked the conditions and bloomed more. Unfortunately, she wouldn't like it either and doesn't repeat except for the smallest bit! It's a tough one, but if y'all think of any, please let me know. |
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| How much sun does your pergola receive, and from what direction? Would you consider a once blooming rambler, supplemented later with other climbers, such as clematis? There are the new. late 20thC repeat blooming ramblers. David Austen has introduced a few, such as 'Francine Austin'. 'Zephrine Drouhn' can take some shade, but I don't know if it would get big enough. It is a popular choice for situations such as you describe because of its thornlessness and bright, dark pink color. |
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| While they might not be exactly what you want as far as individual flowers go, I think you'd be best looking through some Hybrid Musks. Off the top of my head, I'd suggest 'Lavender Lassie' as a possibility for a large repeat-blooming climber with (somewhat) full pink flowers. :-) ~Christopher |
Here is a link that might be useful: 'Lavender Lassie' at HelpMeFind
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- Posted by meredith_e 7B Piedmont NC (My Page) on Fri, Jul 11, 14 at 18:22
| Thanks, ya'll! This side of the pergola faces south east, so I thought that would be good sun, but it turns out the house roof shades the lower parts pretty much from after lunch on! Higher up, like on the top of the pergola, will have more hours of sun -- really good sun there, really. But at the base of the plant, it gets shady all afternoon, so something like a tea would get cranky there ;) I don't even mind a lack of blooms lower down on the rose; I just want something that can survive the first 6 feet or so well enough to catch the light and take off from there. (The blooms above head-height are the key ones because the rest of the front garden blooms well at other eye levels. Nobody would notice a bare-legged climber the way it's laid out.) -- Zephy is an idea! I wish she bloomed more, but she probably really does bloom enough (I don't want only one bloom period, but at least 2 big bloom times are good). Mine didn't get tall enough where I had her, but that was a really bad, grafted specimen in an awful spot to boot, lol. The cold winter finished her off. -- Hybrid musks could be great if they get tall enough! Some have interesting enough blooms, yeah. I couldn't think of any that were quite tall, but Lavender Lassie just might do :) Can y'all think of any other really tall ones? I'm not looking for ones that fade to white too much, either, though. That's the problem with some of my big noisettes for this spot -- too pale too fast. New Dawn is also pale, but mine never go white, at least. They stay visible against a white lathe background, just barely so. I'm considering Natchitoches Noisette, because her blooms are noticeable and she'll take that shade, but my other one doesn't seem like she'd ever get tall enough. HMF list up to 15 feet, so maybe she'd work eventually? Also, what about Cl Pinkie? Her pictures look very nice, but I've never grown her. |
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| You could try Cl. Cecile Brunner (the everblooming one). Flowers are small but quite noticeable. However, she will happily cover your pergola and eat your house too! Seems to do fine in shade. Cl. Radiance. Very beautiful but I don't know about the taking shade part. Perhaps someone who grows her could comment. Cl. Caroline Testout. She's very vigorous and gorgeous but HMF doesn't mention shade tolerance. I think one of the forum members Jackie (????) grows her where she gets a fair amount of shade, but I'm not sure. I like Christopher's suggestion of Lavender Lassie. Wonderful rose and known to be shade tolerant. Melissa |
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| I have 3 cl pinkies around my arbor and at least one is in partial shade. They were planted this past spring and have taken off like gang busters. I am amazed at how fast thy have grown, they were in one gallon containers when planted and now are getting close to six feet tall, seems like I am constantly tying a new cane that sprouted up overnight. So far I have had only one big flush of blooms but I figure that's because it's so busy growing. It's supposed to bloom non stop once it's established. Good luck on picking a climber, I really am impressed with cl pinkies vigorous growth and so far have no complaints. |
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- Posted by Nippstress 5-Nebraska (My Page) on Mon, Jul 14, 14 at 16:14
| I have a fence with quite a few climbers on it at the edge of my part shade garden, and some of those are worth a try. On the lighter pink side are Blossomtime and Compassion, medium pink would be Madame Bovary, and dark pink so far are Laguna and Cherryade. In another part of my yard, Nahema is reasonably happy in part shade and the blooms are to die for - medium pink and Austin-like full blooms. Clair Matin also seems to like part shade, but she's at most a semi-double. If you want to see at least a few of these in action, I have a thread about my "back 40" circulating with the first picture showing the shade climbers. As for hybrid musks, they do well in shade and part shade, and Lavender Lassie is by far the best of them for large fluffy blooms. Many of them are pink, and they might climb in your zone - Heavenly Pink is a white/light pink variation as the flowers fade, and Gartendirektor Otto Linne and Excellenz von Schubert are a more bright pink color. They seem to want to climb and all bloom at least off and on for me all season. Wilhelm is a darker pinkish red, but I have mine as a large 6-7 foot shrub - I don't know if it would climb. Awakening definitely climbs, but it tends to go white as it fades and you already have its counterpart New Dawn. Hope this helps! Cynthia |
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