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| New to roses and trying my hands with Austins. I have several two-year old bands in the ground (Abe Darby, Heritage and Crocus) as well as a couple of own-root bareroots in pots(Mustead Wood Darcy Bussel). They all fry in our summer heat to varing degree, except for perhaps Heritage, but Heritage's blooms seem to be blowing up at an even faster rate though due to the heat. Mustead Wood is doing particularly well and in its second flush of flowers, and right now it has three dozens or so buds and flowers. But some of the MW blooms still fry even after I have dragged the pot to a location that only gets 2-3 hours' direct morning sun.
I was planning to move Mustead Wood and DB into the ground this fall/next spring. Now, I am having second thought as I can at least control how much light it gets while it grows in the pot. What do you think I should do? will the blooms hold up better when these plants get older? Or summer blooms are really just bonus, and I should just take what I can get and focus on the spring and fall flushes? |
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| If you're in the part of the country experiencing such unusually great heat, I'd leave them in pots, with trays, in shade until you get back to your more normal temps. I'm a bit leery of planting this deep into summer temps & will hold off 'till mid Sept, at least. Your roses sound like they're doing exceptionally well in blooming in such heat. But if high 90s are normal for your zone, yeah, summer blooms, especially delicate petaled flowers like Heritage, tend to fry. |
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| How large are the pots? How long have the plants been in the pots? Are there roots sticking out the bottom of the pots? How often are the pots watered? We are having heatwave conditions in our part of CA, too -- even here at the coast. We have a number of very young own-roots in one-gallons -- NOT ready to be moved-up, or go into the ground. I am now watering them every morning. If they were maxed out in those pots, I might very well lose them in these conditions. Jeri |
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| As the Austins mature, the blooms hold up better, however in really hot summer the blooms won't last long. 2-3 hours of sun doesn't sound like enough sun. I would transplant them in fall or spring, or leave them in the pots if you prefer. However I would place them where they get 5-6 hours of sun atleast; I've found the Austin reds like a lot of sun. |
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- Posted by farmerduck NJ (My Page) on Thu, Jul 12, 12 at 22:56
| Thank you all for the response. Krista -- I will move the pot to a location where I get more sun. Jeri -- I think that the pots are all 25 gallon or bigger. I got them from Costco. All of the plants were put in this past Spring. Some are ownroot bareroots from David Austin US, and I think they are 3 years old now. Others are bands from Heirloom Roses. Sizewise, the DA bareroots are now as big as the bareroot grafts I got from the Canadian nurseries this year, if not slightly bigger. Growing them in pot is really meant to be temporary so that I can "learn" about them before giving them a permanent spot in my small garden. Now, I am starting to think maybe they need more pampering than some of the other roses. Also, I have Julia Child, several Kordes fairy tale roses, Ebb Tide growing in pots side by side with Mustead Wood and Darcy Bussel. They were also put in this spring. They all seem to hold up their flowers a lot better than these two, especially JC and ET. My gut instinct is that MW and DB don't take our heat as well as the other roses, and wonder whether and how much they will improve with age. But I am not sure whether it is something else. |
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| OK. Now I understand better. I think, given the size of those pots, you don't need to rush them out of the pots. And I'm not even sure they need water daily. Roses we have in containers that large are watered generally every 3rd. day. And when it is hot, here, it is also usually dry. OTOH, I do agree with you that the Austin roses do seem to be water-hogs -- One of the main reasons we now have few of them. Jeri |
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