hello. im from asia. nice to meet you

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I think your wonderful enthusiasm will carry you along to a beautiful garden. See if you can research the size of the roses you plant so they are placed properly . I'm sending you a link to Help Me Find. It's a wonderful place to access rose information with a data base of over 4000 roses.

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Hi vutaikt nice to meet you too!!

Mandocino rose, thank you for that link-I shall pour over that later!! I have been checking size, (amazed at how big roses can get!!) the ones I have are 2-3ft shrubs- should be ok for where I have put my first few. That's why the mysterious 'not zephirine Drouhin' is a bit of a worry...

I've planted the rambling rector at the base of a large beech tree so I'll see if all I've heard about it is true!!

The big bed we are planning, however will be able to house something considerably bigger than what I now have so I need to do my research and see what I fancy and think will work. What are your favourites?

To move that rose I would just take a shovel and slice though the soil all the way around the plant about 6 inches from center. That should give you a big dirt ball to protect the roots. Try not to loosen the dirt, just slice through the roots. Once you have that done you will have a good idea as to how big of a hole you will need to put it in. Go dig the hole. You can find all kinds of recipes as to what should go into the hole on this forum.... have fun looking for them. Next, get a strong armed individual to lift out the rose, dirt and all. I would just use the shovel. Carry it to the new hole and Shazam, you've moved it.

BTW, did I tell you, I know nothing about raising roses, but that's the way I'd move it..... lol

The Zeffy is a good choice.... I have over 30 of them. Thornless so being around kids you don't have to worry about them getting stuck.

Welcome aboard, you will enjoy this forum as you can get some great advise.

Toolbelt.....

Hi, Rosefan, and welcome to the forum! Sounds like you've got the bug, lol! Don't worry, we all do.

For your yellow one, you can cut out dead wood at any time. So just take out any black canes. Otherwise just keep it weeded, watered and fertilized and just dead head the spent blooms just below the hips. That will give it a chance to grow out where it wants to and you'll get a better Idea of how it grows naturally.

Tess is a beauty! If you wish to you can spray for the rust but I can't suggest anything because I don't know what would be available in Ireland. Ask at a nursery for a good fungicide that works for rust. As for not blooming I'm not sure. Lack of sun will slow down rebloom. Is it putting on ANY new growth at all? Maybe since it's very new it's concentrating on the root ball?

Rambling Rector is a BIG one so I hope you gave it lots of room. Sorry about your little one's disappointment. It's not uncommon for the cheapie bagged roses to be mislabeled. You can move it to another spot and replace it with a good healthy Zephy in the same spot. There does seem to be a bigger problem with replant syndrome in Europe than there is here in the States but since you just planted that other one so recently I don't think it would be any problem. I would check with some good local nurseries or online to find a Zephy you can trust to be the correct rose.

Standards will depend on your winters. Because the grafts are at the top of a tall trunk, and the graft is the part that needs winter protection, you may not be able to winter them there in the ground successfully. Not knowing anything about how bad your winters are I couldn't say for sure. To do some kind of pillars you would need structures for them to grow on. That could be quite pretty though.

I hope I answered some of your questions but, please, don't hesitate to ask more!

Hey, rosefan. I'm about the same boat of taxiing down the runway of rose-obsession to mix a metaphor so to speak. I'm finding a wealth of info on youtube patricularly Paul Zimmerman's series of rose how-to. Here is a link to his

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Tool belt gave great advice. I've recently had to dig up many of my roses. I have heavy clay soil, so I first use a spade fork to go around the rose and try to lift it up. I then can cut any long roots with my pruners. Your roses haven't been in the ground too long, so you may not have these roses. Then I go in with the shovel and lift it out. It's really not that hard. Just make sure you get as much of the root ball as possible.

And yes, do a lot of research on what you want, plan for next year now. Many of us get so excited and just buy a bunch of pretty roses and then have to move them at a later date.

Welcome to the forum! I am also have watched all Paul Zimmermans videos and they are very helpful. I'm sorry your zeffie didn't turn out to be a zeffie but don't give up, you could also try a cl pink Don Juan, the color is bright pink and had a wonderful fragrance. Good luck with all your roses and happy gardening! You will get some wonderful advice from this forum, I have learned so much in the short time I have been posting.

Also note:

Some roses have one name here in the U.S. -- and a different name in the UK. That's another place where HelpMeFind will save you, because they do cross-reference names.

See link, below:

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Wow! Thanks everyone for your replies an advice - know I kinda shoved a lot into that first post!!

Toolbelt, I reckon you are right, I just have to bite the bullet and dig it up. Think I have located a spot to put the "not Zephy" where it can happily grown anyway it wants. I am fairly confident it is not a climber, in fact I reckon it is going to be a medium sized bush (cut to this time next year when I have an escaping 20ft giant on my hands!)

Seil - I got a spray that claims to treat rust I had hoped not to have to use it but she really is in a bad way, our Tess! Only a few wee miserable shoots appearing out. Not like the three other new plants nearby in very similar conditions that do seem to be going great! The "Not Zephy" was from a very reputable nursery so we are not overly amused! Though, (and here is where I think I am going to fit right in on here) It does kinda mean I get to pick another for that spot.... Zephy is a clear fave but will check out Don Juan (thanks for the rec!) *laughs like a loon*

Also thanks for the Paul Zimmerman links - those videos are fab!! And...is it really bad that I just got the David Austin catalogue and am using it as my bed time reading...with a highlighter...

So good to meet you all! I'm probably going to drive you nuts with questions etc!!

Doesn't everyone look their DA catalog before they go to bed??LOL. My husband calls it my rose porn ha ha. I planted 2 zeffie this year and can't wait for spring to see the blooms.

Rosefan, if you bought that rose from a nursery they should be made aware that it wasn't labeled correctly. They may even replace it for you.

Hello rosefan.
I've gardened off and on all my life, but the rose bug just bit me again and I think my case is terminal.
I second the motions on Paul Zimmerman and the HelpMeFind site. That site is amazing.

Once I reabsorbed a book on Classic Roses I bought back in the 80's, I mined Amazon deep for .01 used books and pick a quartet. Also got a couple from a used bookstore. So winter reading is set.

My rose foray thus far, has been a couple of rustling expeditions even though it's a bit late in the season. I'm using my veggie grow-shelf lights to see if I can get some cutting to take root of some wilds I found and my neighbor's Rugosa (probably a hybrid). I love to propogate, but roses always eluded me in the past.

Good Luck!
Sounds like you're off to a great start!

Jjjessee, that sounds very grand. I'm going to take slips from an old aunts house tomorrow morning, see if anything works, but not holding my breath!

Seil, you have a point but the rose has been in the ground about 4 months now and has only just bloomed so I only just realised that it was wrong, proof of purchase is long gone...sigh. However, it does mean I might have to get my five year old a zeffie...so I'm not going to let it get me too down...

Husband threatening to hide the David Austin catalogue now!! ;-)