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Your best roses that are intensely fragrant, please!

Posted by moodyblue 8 (My Page) on
Sat, Aug 25, 07 at 13:38

I am not asking for your most fragrant roses, but just the ones where NUMBER ONE, they would have a VERY strong scent, but the rest of the rose has great attributes too. (I do not expect perfection - just a lot of other good points).

I really want to shorten my huge long list, and I want to choose "fragance" as tops in these roses, but no good if the rest of the rose is poor, as my experience with many, like "Intrigue".

I am tired of ordering roses recommended as very fragrant in a catalogue and finding that this is not the case and sometimes with no fragrance at all. I know they say scent is different between noses, but I am sure we can all say, that the likes of Crysler, Mr. Lincoln, Double Delight etc are all intensely fragrant.

Thanks for your recommendations - they will be greatly considered.

Pauline - Vancouver Island.


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In my zone 5 garden, Double Delight and Fire Fighter both have shown hardiness and a certain amount of disease resistance while repeating well and often. Simply blowing shredded oak leaves from the lawn into the beds has been enough to protect DD and FF throughout the winters. The DDs were moved here 6 years ago and had been growing at my old house for a good 10 years. All are own root now while some were from cuttings I started way back when.
I have a large collection of hybrid rugosas that are disease resistant, hardy, extremely fragrant and make great shrubs.
My best two for repeat and cutting are DD and FF. I also like Barbra Streisand and Neptune but both neither are that hardy or disease resistant for me.


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New Zealand is intensely fragrant for me.


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  • Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
    Sat, Aug 25, 07 at 15:12

Firefighter is wonderful. I have five in a vase right now by the computer. Very productive, long straight stems, fragrant until it falls apart. Mine was slow to get going but worth the wait.

Double Delight is ever reliable, as is Fragrant Cloud.

New Zealand too, but it prefers much cooler weather than my garden has (might be very good on Vancouver Island).


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Papa Meilland is one of my absolute favorite roses. Fantastic fragrance, dark, almost black red, if cut in bud it lasts in vase about a week, sometimes more. My first Papa M. was not very healthy but by year four the plant could handle spot diseases very well, meaning it got few spots and didn't defoliate. I ordered a second plant from Palatine roses and I got a huge PM that will not take 4 years to mature.

Frederic Mistral - great fragrance, good cut flowers very productive if it gets enough water. Grow tall and wide. First two years when it was planted as a specimen I found it quite disease resistant but it is not so good by now - it still very good to compared to a lot of other HTs. Thrips love it.

Irish Hope - pale yellow and fragrant, great for cutting. Superb healthy dark green foliage.

Bewitched medium pink, fragrant, grows very tall. It can handle spot diseases well but usually does not get a lot of disease. Excellent bloomer and keeps flowering in very hot weather.

King's Macc Tall, very fragrant, peachy pink. Quite healthy. Grows to 5'.


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New Zealand, Royal Highness and Fragrant Memory(Jadis) are quite fragrant.


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I have a lousy nose but I found/find these roses fragrant:

Double Delight
Dublin
Royal Highness
Folklore
Mr. Lincoln
Secret
Gold Medal
Sunsprite
Angel Face
Abe Darby
Graham Thomas
Beauty Secret
Irresistible
Hot Tamale
Jennifer
X-rated
Linville
Sweet Chariot
Mme. Hardy
Rosa gallica versicolor
Kognin von Danemark
Compt de Chambord
Fantin-Latour
Reine des Violettes
Tipsy Imperial Concubine
Francis Dubreiul
Duchesse de Brabant
Eungene des Beauharnias
Sombriuel - the climber

If I can smell these, anybody can!


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Alec's Red is by far my favorite srong sented rose. It smells wonderful with an old rose fragrance with a touch of lemony sent. Others are Blue Nyle and Double Delight.
Liane


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Thanks so much guys, already, I am making up a more informed list because of your reviews. Appreciate you taking the time.
Pauline - Vancouver Island


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The number 1 fragrant rose in my garden would be....Bella Roma........she is a good bloomer......lovely cream ,light yellow, and pink .......of medium to large size blooms.


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Out of the 50 or so fragrant roses I have now I'd say the healthiest, most fragrant ones are Radiance and Sharifa Asma.

Radiance has no BS and the repeat is very quick the fragrance is strong damask. Vintage garden's catalog says that it might be the most disease resistant HT. Don't use Diaconil (sp) it burns the leaves.

SA has a bit of BS, but doesn't defoliate. SA smells strongly of lemons and rose. Both bushes are full and rounded, not twiggy or leggy like many HTs.

Papa meilland is super, too, but a bit leggy and gets a touch of BS.

Hope this helps. : )

Here is a link that might be useful: Radiance


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I have four I would call intensely fragrant
- William Shakespeare 2000 (good for short bouquets as the bloom is heavy)
- Bolero
- Chrysler Imperial
- Fragrant Cloud

Very fragrant but not the best for a vase
- Jude the Obscure

One I had at my old house with nice form and fragrance
- Sunset Celebration (might need fungicide)


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  • Posted by oshenar rainy West Coast z8 (My Page) on
    Sun, Aug 26, 07 at 0:08

Hi Pauline,

Vancouver Island has a great climate for roses, it is warmer and less rainy than the mainland.

I agree with you about the catalogue scent descriptions, however you live close by Brentwood Bay Nurseries right? Their scent descriptions are more or less accurate I find.

While I have a big list of fragrant roses, I only have a handful to recommend based on your criteria. I assume you want roses that smell strong all day right? Many of my roses smell nice but only before noon. Anyway here is the list; they are not in any particular order.

a) Sharifa Asma (Austin)
b) Frederic Mistral (Romantica/HT)
c) Golden Celebration (Austin)
d) Tamora and/or Ambridge Rose (Austin)
e) New Zealand (HT)
f) Martin Frobisher (explorer rose)
g) Yves Piaget (Romantica/HT)
h) Tiffany (HT)
i) Madame Isaac Periere (Bourbon)


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Pauline, my most fragrant roses are Fredric Mistral, Jude the Obscure, Gertrude Jeckyll, Isabel Renaissance, Heritage, and Westerland. I havn't had any problems with disease with these particular roses, although I do spray with fungicide every 2-3 weeks. Although some folks have had difficulty with Jude's reblooming, mine is quick to rebloom, winding up for its third flush now and another one due in September. I only get about 3 good flushes from Gertrude, but they are really really beautiful. The new Jubilee Celebration is most impressive (and fragrant) this first year - hope it's as hardy as it is prolific and lovely!


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I should have mentioned Compassion as one of the top healthy climbers that has superb fragrance.

By the way the Kordes' climber Laguna is also fragrant and very healthy.

Colette, the Romantica climber from Meilland is very healthy and wonderfully fragrant.

Other roses that are on the top on my fragrance list: Jardins de Bagatelle, Crimson Glory, SDLM, Secret, Felicia (Hybrid Musk) Pink Peace (for cutting, on the bush the blooms can fry in hot weather) , Lemon Spice (healthier than the average yellows), Memorial Day - excellent smooth, long stems for cutting, intoxicating fragrance, healthier than the average. Mirandy, dark red with strong purple hues, healthy foliage most of the time.

Of Austins: Abe Darby -but botrytis prone and thrips love it. Sharifa Asma, The Prince (f you can find a good healthy plant), Prospero, Crown Princess Margareta.

It is true that Angel Face is fragrant but it was one of the most miserable plants I ever had in my garden.


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Hi Pauline,

Where on Vancouver Island are you? My best roses for scent in Victoria and now on Texada Island are Oklahoma (my favorite scent), Sharifa Asma, Gertrude Jeckyl, Cl. Etoile de Holland, Westerland, Abraham Darby, Frederic Mistral, Ispahan, L'Aimant. All these are very scented in my garden and decent health most of the time.


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Rose de Rescht, Tamora, Sharifa Asma, Gertrude Jekyll are the most fragrant roses I have. In my opinion, the Austins are the most fragrant other than R de R. -- and surpass all others in my garden. Best regards, CJ


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What a great post! Me to, I kind of get annoyed when the label/advertisement says very strong scent - but the smell ended up not as strong as oriental lilies or jasmine.

Are there any roses that can beat the smell of Jasmine polyanthus or lilies?


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Smelly and wonderful here:

rose de rescht
Reine des Violettes
Cotillion
reine victoria
Zéphirine Drouhin
Fragrant Cloud
william shakespeare 2000
Yves Piaget
Lasting Love
Mlle Cécile Brünner Clb


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My most fragrant are, Arizona and Moonglow. DD is fairly strong too (yes, it is that nose difference thing, or DD could just be too young to have developed its scent to the max).

Arizona and Moonglow repeats faster than anything else I have and the foliage stays fairly healthy on a low-to-no spray program. Arizona puts out the most buds at a time, so is my #1 rose at the moment. DD doesn't repeat quite as quickly, but isn't far behind - and the foliage stays neat.


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I went out in my garden to remind myself which of my fragrant roses survived no spray for 3 weeks while i was away. In addition to Sharifa asma and Radiance which I mentioned earlier, Erotika, Marie Pavie and Lyda Rose are also clean.

Erotika has about 20 buds right now and is very franrant and healthy.

In my garden, Jude the Obscure smells wonderful, but it is almost a once bloomer for me. I've counted this year and after the great spring flush I've gotten 3 blooms. It is 6 years own root and the repeat has always been poor.

I also love Gertrude's fragrance, it is one of the best but she is not an easy care rose. She gets BS terribly in my climate if not sprayed. Her repeat is poor, too unless you prune hard after the first flush.


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Good heavens!! I must be getting senile. How in the heck did I leave out my MOST FAVORITE rose of all = SDLM???? :-]


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I've had good luck with MacCartney rose-----very fragrant lovely form very disease resistant in my no-spray yard.

Compassion is great-----I will think of more---LOL

I don't have many HT's but Mac is the one all the ladies want to take home when they visit-----

Lafter is good and of course my Zeffy-------

MacCartney



Florence


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I've just put in an order with Palatine for some of the above roses. I'm also going for fragrance in a big way this year. Thanks, Pauline, for posting this question. It was very helpful LOL

Florence, where did you get your McCartney Rose? I can't seem to find it on either Pickering or Palatines' website.

Thanks
Judith


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  • Posted by maryl Z7 Okla. (My Page) on
    Sun, Aug 26, 07 at 17:45

*Tiffany is a must for scent and as a good all around rose. Beautfiul color too.
*Chrysler Imperial OF Course.
*Rouge Royale - just cut the blooms quickly. One of the more fragrant roses to along in a while.
*Our Lady of Guadalupe- a sweet fragrance that carries throughout the garden.
*Secret - extremely disease resistant in my garden.
Some of the roses mentioned by others did not impress me with their fragrance even though I was told they should. So everyones nose is different to some degree. But I think the list above is pretty smelly for everyone.


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Awesome pics!! Good recommendations too. I have a collection of scented roses and have them documented in my website on teh section titled "Garden Journal". Use menu at the top. Link is below.

Here is a link that might be useful: Perennial and Rose Gardening Site


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Just a few more:
Heirloom
The Roseanne Rose
Fragrant Hour
Fragrant Plum
Scentimental
Spiced Coffee


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  • Posted by jody 7b - NC (My Page) on
    Mon, Aug 27, 07 at 10:49

Peter Mayle. In addition to the wonderful fragrance you have heavy petal substance, quick repeat and incredibly robust bushes. It is a very upright grower - always tall - can do 7' in my climate. Makes big strong canes on which to hold those big, many petalled, fragrant, long-lasting blooms. Good disease resistance especially for this class. If you miss a few sprays you get a little bit of leaf drop in the middle of the bush, not the whole defoliation thing.

Of course, even though I grow many more OGRs now, I still treasure some classics: Fragrant Cloud, Double Delight, Rose Rhapsody, Gold Medal, Veterans Honor.

I have an absolutely spectacular Mister Lincoln. Roses Unlimited has a wonderful clone for sale ownroot. My specimen is 6'+, has suffered no BS, grew 8 basals this spring and has bloomed right through the heat. Its a show stopper.


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second on Peter Mayle


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I agree about SDLM and Heirloom. Sunsprite and Rose De Recht are wonderfully scented but both blow very quickly here (RDR doesn't even last an hour) but may do better in your climate. I love the scent of Lilian Austin. I'd like to suggest Julia Child. She is not only smelly but covered with blooms all of the time. She and Our Lady of Guadalupe fills your garden with color when nothing else is blooming and that is worth something.
Nancy


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Rouge Royale- smells divine all day. I second Julia Child, she smells awesome in the morning, more than my Tamora.
Mary Magdalene, Distant Drums and Pat Austin.


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I think so far in my garden I would narrow it down to:

Jude the Obscure
Gertrude Jeckyl
Compte de Chambord
Helena Renaissance

And I'm not forgetting Evelyn, but for some reason she doesn't seem to waft. More of a rose to stick your nose in and inhale like a drug.

I have many runners-up as I try to grow only fragrant roses, the more fragrant the better.


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I am so pleased the way this topic turned out. Thank you so much everyone for your imput. I am printing this page and will compose my list from your suggestions. I am also pretty excited about trying some of these roses that are new to me, not even thought of before, so that will be part of the fun.
It was also great to see that other folks are preparing lists on your suggestions here too. So much appreciated again guys. You are AWESOME.

Florence, thanks for the picture of the McCartney Rose. I really should have that, as it is in my heritage growing up on the Merseyide when it was all happening.

Cheers folks! Pauline - Vancouver Island


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Fragrant Cloud is definately a wonderfully smelling rose that I would highly recommend!!


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I do ADORE Jude, so freah. I prefer fresh to perfumy. I need another one!

Carla


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I think of a trio of super-fragrant red roses as "The three brothers" because each one was bred from the same parents
"Chysler Imperial" X "Charles Mallerin"
They are
1. "Papa Meilland" 1963, bred in France by the Meilland family.
2. "Mr. Lincoln" and 3. "Oklahoma" both bred by Swim, and released to commmerce in 1964.
Papa Meilland is my favorite for its depth of fragrance, that I find more penetrating than the other two. The blooms are sometimes edged with purple in late Autumn, as the weather cools, but the days are filled with sunshine, here in Northern California.

"Francis Dubreuil" has the same deep rich Damask type scent of the three roses above, but is more floriferous and a smaller plant, here it reaches 3 and 1/3 feet tall.
It is believed that it may be the cultivar "Barcelona" which is a Hybrid Tea, which would make it more cold hardy.

My favorite fragrant pink roses, are found among the Old Garden Roses:
1. "Comte de Chambord" Mr. Austin used this rose to breed Gertrude Jekyll, and G.J. inherited its' scent. I find that "Comte de Chambord" is just as fragrant, healthier, and more floriferous.
2. "Grandmothers' Hat"

White roses
Love the Noisettes, their fragrance is of clove and rose, and very intense.
"Nastarana" is my favorite, I can detect its scent from 12 feet away.

Mauve
"Ebb Tide" for modern roses. Such a beauty.
Luxrosa


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Oh yeah, the Mr. Lincoln in my client's HT bed smells pretty darn good.


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French Lace, of course the Troll can't smell anything whatsoever on this rose; COMPLETE ZERO CITY.

Makes my toes curl, and very few things do anymore at my age.

Foghorn


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These three will make your socks roll up and down:

1. Frances Dubreuil - antique rose (old hybrid tea or true tea rose)

2. Golden Celebration - David Austin "English" rose

3. Reine des Violettes - true Old Garden Rose introduced in France back in 1860. A rose treasured for a century and a half.

Randy


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Moodyblue,
My best rose is Christopher Marlowe.
It blooms profusely and opens up to a gorgeous dark pink and orange mixed, then as it ages, it turns a gorgeous light pink!
Awesome, 2 colors on one flower!
The smell is so fragrant you can smell it across the yard.
Love it!
Do a search on this web forum and put in Christopher Marlowe for a glimpse of the pic of 2 colors.
Something Different!


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Butterfly, thanks for responding. I looked up this rose on HMF and it looks beautiful, no doubt about that, and really I AM looking for profuse blooms, but above that, I am looking for intense fragrance. HMF are reporting fragrance from two different sources as being moderate and mild tea fragrance!!

It is a difficult call, as I know, even more now, that ones interpretation on smell is different. Wha da y'do!!! :)
Pauline - Vancouver Island


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.........and PS, thanks again for all the other responses since I last posted. I really have my work cut out, teehee! Some excellent recommendations here - thank God for the added assistance of HELP ME FIND. It was nice to see that a lot of you reported roses that I already have, so at leasT I feel we are on the right track. I am really looking forward to trying some of your new recommendations. Ta everso - much appreciated.
Pauline - Vancouver Island.


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This post really resonates with my dilemma. I want to grow fragrant roses for vases in my home and I can't believe how difficult it has been to do this...no one seems to agree on scent, with the exception of Double Delight, Mr. Lincoln, and Fragrant Cloud. That seems to be "nose unanimous". I don't know why people don't post Oklahoma more often, because that is the most fragrant rose I have grown to date, but it's not great as a cut flower. Tiffany won the Gamble award and I love that rose, but I'm disappointed that it doesn't smell more intensely...maybe as she gets older. Lasting Love has been a disappointment other than the leaves are incredibly glossy! Aromatherapy has been the joke of my garden...all the scent is in it's name and none in the rose. Veteran's Honor is billed as light scent and it has more of a scent than my "fragrant" roses, albeit, it smells like raspberries, but it's is INCREDIBLE as a cut rose.

I think I'm going to try Papa Meilland and Grenada (parent of Double Delight) for next year.


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Pauline,

You will have surely noticed by now that the list is rather long. And if you are already growing roses, you might wonder why some of the varieties that are listed have any claim to fragrance, whereas, from your own experience, they are nothing to write home about. The truth is that many different factors contribute to fragrance as experienced by any individual. These factors include your olfactory cells's sensitivity or insensitivity to certain smells - after all the experience of a scent is triggered by chemicals firing off specific receptors. If you have more of certain types of receptors and less of the others, some fragrance may seem strong to you but weak to others. This might explain why some people cannot appreciate the classive "myrrh" scent. It also depends on the climatic and growth conditions of the rose. An Evelyn that we grow in our courtyard is intensely fragrant, whereas the same rose propagated from a cutting, growing in the front yard, is disappointing unless I stick my nose close to the blooms.

Your best evaluation of what constitutes the best chance of giving a good fragrance is to figure out which roses are the ones that are consistently mentioned amongst posters. Whenever this subject comes up, a few names come up on many posters' lists - Frederic Mistral, Jude the Obscure, Fragrant Cloud, to name a few. Those would be the names I would take note of.

For our garden, the following are the most fragrant, in order of strengths (how strong the scent is, how pleasing it is, how long it persistes for and how far it is broadcast in the garden):

1. Frederic Mistral (large, disease resistant, good bloomer but a late starter, balls in prolonged heavy rain)
2. Eglantyne (great flush in spring, beautiful at that time with clean foliage, but balck spot magnet, totally defoliated by late July - it has earned it's keep in the garden, however, just for it's fragrance and reain resistant flowers)
3. Mdm Isaac Pereire - (I have only had this one for one year, but I can already understand why some people would claim that it is the most fragrant rose in the world. Flowers hold up well in the rain.)
4. Evelyn - it's fragrance is simply heavenly to my nose and really permits the whole courtyard. Does not bloom well for some, but continuous bloomer for us. Petals spot with the rain, and the fragrance is not appreciable after rainfall - it needs warm sunny weather to smell it's best. Some black spot but tolerable)
5. Jude the Obscure - very fragrance, so-so for rebloom. But balls badly in the wet weather. Clean foliage and black spot resistant. Canes have weak joints that tend to split away from the main canes - so be prepared to do some staking.
6. Peter Mayle - gorgeous huge blooms on a moderately black spot prone bush. I grow this one for the appearance of the blooms, but the fragrance is intense especially if you bring them indoors as cut flowers. This is one of those roses which one feels guilty about leaving the blooms out in the rain - its flowers tend to land in our flower vase more than it shines on the bush in the garden.

Another favourite of ours is the massive climber, Mdm Alfred Carrier. Indvidual flowers are fragrant within 6 inches of the bloom, but when it flowers en masse in late spring, the collective fragrance of the masses of flowers cast a beguiling scent throughout the garden. If you are comtemplating this rose, make sure you have the room for it!


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My vote goes for The McCartney Rose, a flatout fabulous HT, 7x4 in our garden, in constant bloom, healthy as a rose could possibly be. Madame Alfred Carriere is exquisite, Alchymist is a fabulous once-bloomer with blackspot issues but still! Anna de Diesbach and Yolande d'Aragon, the Hybrid Perpetuals, are lovely and healthy. A single bloom of Zepherine Drouhin won't make me twirl but put me within 15 feet of a mature plant and you'll have to move fast to get out of my way. Serious mildew issues, though, in my organic garden. Jude is really fragrant and of course, so are Just Joey and Fragrant Cloud, but none are great performers for me. My two favorite roses this year were Celsiana, the Damask and Mme. Plantier, the (hybrid) Alba. Both exquisitely healthy, extremely floriferous, and very, very long blooming periods for once-bloomers (6-10 weeks in the PNW). The primary objective in my first choices for the garden had to be as fragrant as possible, so there are dozens more that are beloved. Best left to another post.

Sue


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Interesting observations! No wonder that The McCartney Rose is being mentioned so much. It has won 12 medals for it´s outstanding fragrance. Very few have like Meilland been able to make these intensely fragrant HTs. Papa Meilland, Frederic Mistral, Peter Mayle, Rouge Royale, The McCartney Rose and the new star I showed a picture of in the rose gallery thread (Frederic Mistral this evening).


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Acapella is my #1 rose for both blooms and fragrance. Admiral Rodney and Papa Meilland are also very fragrant, but do not have the bloom output that Acapella does (for me).


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A year or two ago, I did a survey on Gardenweb for the most fragrant roses. I posted them again recently, since I'd nearly lost them, but that list and another one appear to have disappeared (too old for the managment perhaps, I don't know). Double Delight and Mister Lincoln tied at 23 votes each after more than 100 posts in response. Here are the top twenty-five-ish by number of votes:
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23x Double Delight (creamy white swirled with strawberry red)
23x Mr. Lincoln (dark red)
15x Fragrant Cloud (coral red)
13x Chrysler Imperial (burgundy red)
13x Gertrude Jekyll (rose pink)
13x Jude the Obscure (honey)
10x Crimson Glory
10x Lemon Spice (patel yellow tinted pale pink)
9x Abraham Darby (Austin, apricot blend)
9x Francis Dubruiel (dark true red)
9x Papa Meilland (dark red)
8x Evelyn (Austin, apricot pink blend)
8x Heirloom (dark mauve blend)
8x Rose de Rescht (vivid fuchsia)
8x Secret (white tipped pink)
8x Sharifa Asma (Austin, pearly pink)
8x Sunsprite (bright yellow)
8x Sweet Chariot (purple blend)
8x Tiffany (pink/yellow blend)
7x Angel Face (1968, dusky mauve)
7x Melody Parfumee (deep plum fading to clear lavender)
7x The McCartney Rose (ruffled, few petals)
7x Yves Piaget (Romantica, hot pink)
6x Granada (yellow, orange, scarlet tricolor)
6x Just Joey (clear apricot) 6x Mirandy
6x Scentimental (white striped with red)
6x Secret Garden Musk Climber
6x Zephirine Drouhin (cerise pink)

Good luck.

Jim W.


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Emanuel, Austin
Jude the Obscure, Austin
Clementina Carbonieri
Mdme. de Sevigne
Mdme. Ernest Calvat
Lemon Spice
Jacques Cartier

Carla


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Double Delight and Jude the Obscure are very strong spicy scent here. Also very good reblooming and good performing rose.

Rose’s lover
nattaporn


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In my garden, the fragrant ones are Rose de Rescht, Tamora, Sharifa Asma, Double Delight, Love & Peace, Taboo, Gruss an Aachen, Baronne Prevost.


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One I didn't see mentioned but has a wonderful scent to me is Cramoisi Superieur. I love to stick my nose into those blossoms. Spice has a wonderful citrus scent also.


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The clove-spiked scent of rugosa Roserie de l'Hay, who was also one of the first to bloom in my long-ago Ohio Garden. The myrrh scent of Constance Spry, DA's once-blooming climber, said to be the first English rose. Most fragrant newcomer this year-- Memorial Day.


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purple passion isn't mentioned either. It's smell is way stronger than dd or ML or FC...I have all those. It is a very strong citrus and a very vigorous bush.


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Yes, Jude the Obscure has fantastic scent if it blooms. I do not remember when I saw a bloom on this rose the last time. Was it early spring? If it bloomed later I somehow missed it but it certainly didn't bloom a lot. OK, mine is still an own root baby, but still...

I don't see Comte de Chambord on the summary list. It has ugly foliage here if I do not spray but its fragrance is divine.

I also miss Pink Peace, Frederic Mistral and Memorial Day from the list.


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Pauline, I will try to tailor my comments for what I have seen do well in the Pacific Northwest. Many of the old garden roses should do reasonably well in the fragrance department. Some of the Austins should do well also. Watch out for Chrysler Imperial, Oklahoma, Papa Meilland, and Mister Lincoln. They are highly fragrant, but they prefer warmer temperatures. They frequently ball and turn purple in cool, damp northwest conditions. They also want to mildew. When the weather warms up, they are pretty. Papa Meilland can get quite large, but don't expect many flowers. It does quite well here, provided it doesn't get frozen out like mine did last April. I had good luck with Polarstern, Margaret Merrill, Silverado, Blue Nile, and Westerland. I think Lemon Spice, Love's Promise, and Melody Parfumee should do well there also. Since you are on Vancouver Island, it would be worth a trip to go over to Butchart Gardens to go through their roses on a sniffing trip to see what looks good and smells good there since that is close to you. This is just some food for thought.


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On the contrary, Bustopher, I grew Mr. Lincoln when I lived on the Olympic Penninsula just south of Vancouver Island. It was a champ for me there. The blooms were huge, and rich red and fragrant and lasted longer than in the Gulf South where I now live. --but yes, all those reds you mentioned definitely need a spray regimen to protect from mildew, and even blackspot.

My favorite, new to me this year is Alec's Red. A small bush but big fat coral red blooms that last a very long time and are as fragrant as most anything I've smelled. I have to admit I haven't yet smelled Papa Meilland, which I have on order for the spring, along with Jardins de Bagatelle, another smellie! --can hardly wait!


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What about Elle and Valencia--both nicely fragrant in my garden, but not mentioned above.

Kate


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I grow over 150 varieties mainly for fragrance and my winners are:
My Strongest Red- Either Crimson Glory or Papa Meilland
My Strongest White- Pope John Paul 2 or Helena Renaissance
My Strongest light Pink- Either Sharifa Asma or Yolande D'Aragon
Strongest Dark Pink- Peter Mayle
My Strongest Orange- Sutters Gold
My Strongest Yellow- Lemon Spice (hands down.)
My Strongest Purple- Barbara Streisand or Intrigue
Strongest Pink Blend- Typhoo Tea or Double Delight
Strongest yellow Blend- Bel'aroma
Strongest Orange Blend- Fragrant Cloud
I've found that a some of the Gamble Winners aren't really that strong to my nose, ie Granada, Angel Face, Tiffany, while some like Mr Lincoln, Crimson Glory, Sutters Gold are mind blowingly strong. Is that a word?
Al


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Does anyone have an opinion on "Conrad Ferdinand Meyer" on fragrance? And, though it is thorny, if I put it in a relatively out of the way spot, would it work well? Would tendency to rust be a problem in the mid atlantic?


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I love perfume and enjoy all stages of my roses blooms. May I add another vote for Compassion, I have found mine to be very beautifully perfumed at all stages, on the plant and cut. Lately, I have been cutting at bud stage, hanging upside down in a cold/dark room to dry, and wrapped in silk voile for sachets in my drawers, boxes, purses, etc. So far, the dry buds continue giving a lovely scent for some time. I will date a new cut to see just how long.
My compassion has been very slow to establish but is now begining to bloom more freely and the plant is most attractive and healthy.
I thought for years mAlfred Carrierre and Darlows Enigma were my two best for perfume, but this past year, I realized the atmosphere needs to be just so for waft filled air, but Compassion, not wafting, was the best overall-all the time for perfume.


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Just got a whiff of my Pope John Paul planted this past spring and oh my! Wow! It rivals Abe Darby for fragrance and is a good repeat bloomer too.


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Ahhh...even though she's not over the top fragrent, I must mention my beloved Europeana. When she's covered with blooms, the gentle perfume greets me at the first landing as I walk up to my second story apartment.

So heavenly to practically float up the stairs in a cloud of rosey perfume. And the cut flowers last, I swear with hand over heart, two weeks in just plain tap water! I dearly love her--can ya tell?

Also have Angel Face and Sunsprite--both very fragrant and vigorous. Our Lady of Guadalupe is on her way to me after the New Year...bought her on the strength of other's experiences and beautiful pictures. Very excited about her arrival--promises to be a great rose too!


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Marchesa Boccella, aka Jacques Cartier, is so fragrant in my garden that everyone who walks past it comments on the scent. It isn't close enough to put your face into without actually stepping into the garden, but it's in a spot where all the foot traffic has to pass near. Not the prettiest foliage, but very disease resistant in my flower/shrub perenniel bed.


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Cotillion
Eugene de Beauharnais
Fragrant Cloud
Intrigue
neptune
Prospero
Reine des Violettes
rose de rescht
shocking blue
Sunsprite
william shakespeare 2000
Yves Piaget
Zéphirine Drouhin


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Francis Dubreuil, Yves Piaget, Oshun, Valencia, Christopher Marlowe, Rouge Royal, Pope John. There are more but these are the ones I go to first to smell in the garden.


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I am about 95% certain that my 'mystery rose' under my pine is a Rose de Rescht, confirmed by the good folks here at the rose forum. It is absolutely lovely, had no diseases whatsoever last year, and not a JB anywhere near it. To top it all off, it smelled like heaven. True, old-fashioned rose scent, and it sat under that tree by itself through three northern Illinois winters while this house sat empty and came out ahead in the long run.

Very spotty rebloom, but it is also in more shade than it should be.


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Pope John, Double Delight, Sutter's Gold (the only reason I grow it), and Yves Piaget. Pope John fills the entire patio with fragrance.


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My three most fragrant are:
Pope John Paul 2, Barbara Streisand, and Double Delight.

My McCartney hasn't bloomed yet but after reading all the comments I can't wait to smell it!


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What is SDLM?


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It's a (the?) bourbon rose: Souvenir de la Malmaison.

Still no opinions on Conrad Ferdinand Meyer?


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Souvenir de la Malmaison

Here is a link that might be useful: sdlm


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Hi Pauline,my most fragrant hands down are Pure Perfume,a beautiful very double white rose,and Fragrant Plum,a tall mauve coloured rose,the list goes down with Felicia,Gertrude Jekyll,etc.
Bruce


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Most fragrant in my yard is Pope John Paul II. It is new this year, so the strong fragrance came as a nice surprise.

The other night I was cutting some roses to bring inside and happened to have PJPII and Chrysler Imperial side by side to compare. Truthfully, they smelled very similar, only the PJPII was a bit stronger to my nose. PJPII also lasts a very long time in a vase.


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"PJPII also lasts a very long time in a vase. "
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That's good, because I just cut a bloom to bring in, and it is full-open already. Hope it lasts! :/


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My winner rose for fragrance is Sebastian Kneipp (synonyms: KORpastato, Fragrant Memories) with romantic, full, almost white blooms. I don´t know any other cultivar with similar, intoxicatingly sweet scent. Other varieties smell to me mostly like typical modern or old roses, more intensively or less. I am seeking for other rose with similar scent as well. Can you recommed me any other with sweet, intoxicating fragrance and romantic look? Thanks.


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in my garden, golden celebration is tops. lots of seconds: viking queen, brother cadfael, scentsational(mini), sweet chariot. my pat austin (to me) has the most awful, putrid smell ever and wins the booby prize for the worst.


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My favorites are:
Papa Meilland
Christopher Marlowe
Golden Zest
Tamora
Zephrine Drouhin
Darlow's Enigma
Gertrude Jekyll
Rouge Royale
Chrylser Imperial
Abe Darby
Angel Face
Frangrant Plum
Francis Dubreuil
Jubilee Celebration
Love and Peace
Gentle Giant
and of course....Evelyn!


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I agree that many roses that should smell do not smell after you buy them. Really disappointed in two new red roses, Frankly Scarlet and Beloved that have no smell. My favorites are Lemon Spice, Chrysler Imperial, Mr. Lincoln and Double Delight. Has anyone grown Sheila's Perfume? Supposed to be very fragrant.


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Here in my Idaho garden
Christopher Marlowe is top on the list.
I find Winter Sunset to be very fragrant.
It is new to my garden this season, but appears to be a good, healthy, hardy rose thus far.
Belle De Crecy is also fragrant giving me no problems, other than it's once-blooming.
Lioness


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pat austin (to me) has the most awful, putrid smell ever and wins the booby prize for the worst

My nose sometimes picks up funny notes-from Pat i get a little bit of moth balls which sounds odd but I love her scent anyway. Jubilee Celebration smells like lemon rose with pipe tobacco to me. From Gentle Hermione i get a bit of the barnyard. A few others in my garden are stongly reminiscent of certain Feminine Hygiene Products, LOL


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Mme. Isaac Pereire is the most fragrant rose-- beats even Mr. Lincoln! I love the fragrance of most albas-- Felicite Parmentier, Mme. Plantier esp. And MORE Bourbons-- the SDLM sports Mystic Beauty and Souvenir de St. Ann's. I love love love the scent of Golden Celebration and Buck's Prairie Harvest-- and Sunsprite has always been a fave tho it seems to prefer cooler climates than here. I recall Rose de Rescht as being very fragrant but that rose has never bloomed well for me in any of my gardens. Gone.


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Kristi asked about Sheila's Perfume -- I grow it and it has just medium fragrance to my nose. It is so beautiful.

I don't think The Wife of Bath has been mentioned, a highly fragrant (myrrh) pink Austin I like. It stays compact and blooms well here. I'll put a photo link below:

Here is a link that might be useful: The Wife of Bath photos


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For me Jude the Obscure is number one for fragrance followed closely by Sharifa Asma, Tamora, Abe Darby, Well Being and Clair Renaissance.

Ruth


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I'll give you two:

The Prince (a purple Austin)
Earth Song (a pink Buck)

The Prince is intensely frangrant, and sometimes I pick up the scent just passing by it.

Earth Song because it has some fragrance and is so very floriferous with high centered grandiflora blooms.


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In my Pacific NW garden, the scented roses that have flourished are:

1. Abe Darby
2. Melodee Parfume
3. Sheila's Perfume
4. Intrigue
5. Elle
6. Yves Piaget
7. Golden Celebration
8. Julia Child

Hope that helps. Kristina


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I have a Tiffany and went out several times to smell it. It's a beautiful flower but I can hardly detect any scent. Carefree Beauty has a stronger smell than it. I am wondering now if it was mislabeled.


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I have a poor nose so fragrance is low on my list of priorities.

However even I cannot miss the fragrance of The Apothecary rose. This June I had a rose tour of my garden. The fragrance of this rose was so pervasive that it was noticed at the entrance of my driveway 100' away. Of course helped by other OGR's (Like Hippolyte with it's hundred or so flowers). But the A is bigger and bushier than most HT's so has more flowers to emanate fragrance.

Puzzling that it isn't unmentioned here!

Another rose I have that is in the same class as Offinalis is Baltimore Belle, medium fragrance but it has several hundred flowers which combined is overpowering.


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I think Mirandy is an intensely fragrant rose. Today I cut two for a vase -- I had to scotch tape them to a small stake because the stems are so floppy - but what color and fragrance! To me the fruity scent resembles Jude the Obscure.

Another very fragrant one is Sonia Rykiel. Also Perdita, particularly indoors.

I used to have Sweet Afton for its fragrance, but I couldn't stand its habit of blooming at the height of 6 feet -- it also was very stingy with its flowers to boot - but perhaps with pruning and better conditions ... I know when I first saw it and smelled it in another garden, I thought it was the greatest thing to come along. (This happens rather often.)

Another very fragrant older one is the floribunda Ivory Fashion, it has a clove perfume that is very distinctive. Don't understand why this has gone by the board. It has lovely dark stamens. It is the perfect complement for Apricot Nectar and Pink Chiffon, both in the ground and in a vase -- all of them last a week or more as cut flowers.


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  • Posted by becr zone 9 CA 19 (My Page) on
    Wed, Aug 13, 08 at 5:33

Memorial Day, Mr. Lincoln, and Sharifa Asma are my most consistently smelly roses, even in the hot and dry conditions we have here in the summertime.

Barbara Streisand, Heirloom, Elle, Baronne Edmond de Rothschild, Tiffany and Sweet Surrender are also up there, but are a little more dependent on the time of day, temps and humidity or lack there of.

:-D Becky


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Try these three roses voted the most fragrant in the entire world:
* Margaret Merril (Completely Fresh Smell)
* Typhoo Tea (Pure Citrus Smell)
* Magnificent Perfume (Sweet Expensive Perfume Smell)
These call all be purchased through a great company called:
Heirloom Roses

Here is a link that might be useful: Heirloom Roses


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  • Posted by phylrae z5a/centralNYS (My Page) on
    Sat, Jun 20, 09 at 18:36

Someone mentioned Tiffany not being that fragrant to their nose....I'm the same way...I can't smell much of anything...have had her for at least 4 years now.

Veteran's Honor is one I think smells great (I always say like cherry Koolaid)...

Ok, I'm going to recommend one that I haven't seen listed yet...I don't know HOW to describe it except that it has a VERY unique blend of colors AND scent......STAR OF THE NILE. I absolutely LOVE her....got from Roses Unlimited a few years ago...just incredible. I have never smelled anything like SOTN....VERY unique! Very beautiful shrub as well.
:0) Phyl


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The most fragrant roses I have the pleasure of growing are:

SUTTERS GOLD!! (One of my favorites. When I let my mom smell this rose for the first time, she thought I sprayed a perfume or something on it)
Fragrant Cloud
Neptune
Stainless Steel
Oklahoma
Memorial Day

Those are tops in my garden, tho there is a lot of good competition for fragrance.


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No one's mentioned Mme. Le Gras de St. Germain, an old French alba. Striking virtually pure-white flowers, delicious lemony fragrance. GaryStPaul


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  • Posted by jont1 Midwest 5b/6a (My Page) on
    Thu, Jun 25, 09 at 2:27

The most pleasant smelling rose of any that I have ever grown is the floribunda "Outrageous". However it was such a poor doer that I had to end up shovel pruning it.
That leaves Pope John Paul II as my most fragrant rose by a nose. Fragrant Plum and Melodee Parfumee are both a close second.
Lagerfeld, Double Delight, Shiela's Perfume, and Memorial Day are very strong fragrant roses as well.
John


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Many of my roses are fragrant. The fragrant ones being:

WS2000-(strong old rose/violets)
Pat Austin-(medium tea)
Graham Thomas-(strong apple/citrus)
Red Eden-(strong old rose yet fruity)
Belinda's Dream-(strong and sweet)
Zephirine Drouhin-(strong rasberry)
White Eden-(unknown....waiting for bloom)

I would say either Zephy or Belinda's Dream has the strongest overall scent, although I believe I like WS2000's the most.

At the local rose garden, Paul Neyron has an exquisite scent. There is an OGR there that has only about 1-2 inch pink blooms that blows every other rose away.....of course it's the one rose that isn't labeled there. It was far and away the strongest smelling rose there...2nd place wasn't even close.


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I agree with those that have mentioned the Austin roses Sharifa Asma, Golden Celebration and Jude the Obscure. I prefer the smell of Golden Celebration but it may not be as strong as the other two.


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Without a doubt, my fave to stick my snout into is Abe Darby. It's THE rose that hooked me on roses to begin with! Haven't seen any mention of Honey Perfume here.
Anyone grow her? Comments...??


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Here's my list of great sniffers
Secret
Sharifa Asma
Memorial Day
Oklahoma
Mister Lincoln
Double Delight
Sunsprite
Just Joey
Jude the Obscure
Golden Celebration
Tiffany
Abraham Darby
Evelyn
Honey Perfume


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My best and most fragrant roses in order are:
Gertrude Jekyll
William Shakespeare 2000
Fragrant Cloud
Big Purple
Fragrant Charm
Red Cedar (this one smells intensely fragrant to my nose, though its not supposed to be that fragrant)
Mr Lincoln


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I've been growing Sweet Fairy for years. It doesn't do too badly, fragrance-wise, for a micro-mini.

Here is a link that might be useful: Chopin's student Carl Filtsch


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Martine Guillot, by far…..but she is hard to find these days. I planted her 13 years ago when we first began the garden, and she is the one of the only original roses left. Beautiful pearly pink/white, healthy, shade tolerant. Even the japanese beetles don't bother her. She does grow huge, though- I finally coped with that by making her a pillar rose and cutting back at least a third to a half each year. Her only drawback is that the roses, which bloom in sprays, aren't lasting indoors - but what a delicious rosy/fruity scent. I find it very hard to cut them, though- I can't bear to sacrifice the unopened buds.


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I live in the UK but if you want a rose that has a fragrance like no other. I can suggest Woolerton Old Hall (it's a climber) the scent will knock your socks off.


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