The propagation of the variety Black Magic is not legal under the J&P's patent until 2018. Therefore, it's J&P or no where. Sorry.

Thank you kstrong.

K&M has Black Magic on their list for 2013.

Thanks kentucky_rose. I checked out their website and saw it on the list.

Thanks.

This post was edited by bayarea-girl on Mon, Aug 19, 13 at 12:28

I contacted K&M , unfortunately they don't have it either. Here is the response I got from James Mills of K&M:

"Sorry, we will not be able to sell this rose next season, Jackson and perkins will only have it on own roots"

Anyone who knows other places that sell this rose, please let me know. Thanks.

You can check out these two sites

http://blackmagicroses.net or

http://buyblackroses.com

I hope you find what you are looking for:)

Bayarea-girl -- A rose that's very similar to 'Black Magic' in color, velvety texture and classic HT form is 'Black Baccara'. It's currently listed by several vendors. It's available as an own-root plant (Roses Unlimited & Heirloom), or grafted on Dr. Huey (Regan Nursery & S&W Greenhouse); on Multiflora (Palatine); and on Fortuniana (K&M).

Thank you for all the responses especially desertgarden561 for the cutting offer. Luckily J&P finally has this for sell today so I just ordered it. Can't wait to plant it when it's arrived.

I like to collect the hybrid tea red roses with the most velvet petals :)

This post was edited by bayarea-girl on Sun, Jan 12, 14 at 17:04

Add "Oklahoma" to your list, if you don't already have it. I don't grow many red roses, but I did grow this one once, it was dark red, velvet, with good fragrance.

Thank you diane_nj. I will check it out.