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"florist" rose

Posted by poorbutroserich 6 nashville (My Page) on
Wed, Aug 15, 12 at 23:15

Hello to all. I've been perusing catalogs and sites for roses I'd like to order for next Spring. I have seen "florist" as an adjective. I googled it and it would seem a "florist" rose is meant to be grown in a greenhouse rather than a garden. Does this mean they are a "no no" for the garden? sure to require spraying? more tender? prima donnas?
thanks.
Susan


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RE: "florist" rose

Hi Susan, generally, yes. "Florist" roses are bred and selected for completely different requirements than garden roses. There have been some which translated into gardens very successfully, but they are the exceptions rather than the rule. Florist stock is usually budded. Florist roses sold for garden use are usually own root. Not all perform well own root, just as not all garden roses perform well own root.

IF you happen to obtain one which performs well own root, and IF your climate and conditions are to its liking, it CAN be an acceptable garden plant. Those are some pretty big "IF"s. It is likely to be hit and miss. Often, exhibitors and collectors go for the florist varieties because they often have the "exhibition form", and are something not easily found in nurseries and other gardens. They can be fun. They can be expensive and they can be frustrating as all get out.

If you fall into the exhibitor or collector camps, or if you're just curious, try some. If you're looking for good garden plants, you are likely to be disappointed. Kim


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I agree with everything Kim said. I would add that if fragrance is an important factor for you, bear in mind that florist roses generally have little or none (usually none). On the plus side, they tend to have very good vase life if cut at the proper time.

I was on a florist rose "kick" several years ago. The only one I still have is the white HT 'Tineke', which has been a fine garden rose for me. Mine is, however, on Dr Huey roots.

I've had reports that another one that performs well in the garden (and does have fragrance) is 'Champagne' (aka 'Antique Silk', aka 'Champagner'). It's available in the U.S. only on its own roots (and only from Heirloom Roses). It is a Kordes rose, classified as a Floribunda. I added that one last spring and am growing it in a container. I've not yet formed an opinion.


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They are just hybrid teas selected for long single cutting stems, tolerance of refrigeration, and exceptional vase life. Almost all hybrid teas will need spraying in Nashville. I don't know that florist roses are prima donnas compared to other hybrid teas, just that most are not particularly good garden roses and lack scent. Along with 'Tineke,' another with a successful career as a garden rose is 'Sonia.'


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  • Posted by seil z6b MI (My Page) on
    Thu, Aug 16, 12 at 12:36

I have Red Intuition, which is a florist rose, and it's turned out to be a great garden rose for me. Like any rose, it just depends on the variety and the conditions you have to grow it in.


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I planted a New Day in Feb of this year and so far it as performed better then most of the roses in my garden.


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thanks so much for the info. as an absolute beginner i'm trying to stick to the "tried and true" out of the gate.


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That's a very safe way to start, Susan. I don't blame you a bit. There are a number of very experienced rosarians in Tennessee, whom I am sure will be more than willing to share specific information about which roses have performed well for them over the long haul. No matter what is written nor what advice you are offered by anyone not living where you do, the best will still come from those who are living with the same conditions, climate and disease strains you do. What you might consider is starting another thread here and calling it something like "Rose suggestions for Zone 6, Nashville, TN". That should pull other rose nuts around you from their gardens with probably the best suggestions you could hope to receive. They can also probably provide you with specifics about sources in your area for pretty much anything you might need or want. Thank you for posting WHERE you live. That very often makes ALL the difference! Good luck! Kim


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You can get florist roses budded to root stock from Wisconsin Roses--they do quite well in our garden which is sprayed regularly. But, this year, the spray program wasn't quite good enough, so Hot Princess came down with a severe case of Powdery Mildew. I've also seen Hot Princess on the trophy table with BS--I think it would have been Queen if free of disease.


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