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Only have room for 1 or 2 roses...help me pick!

Posted by astphard 9a, New Orleans (My Page) on
Sun, Sep 2, 12 at 1:43

We're finally getting around to doing the landscaping in the backyard, and unfortunately we just don't have the amount of sun as would be beneficial to grow all the roses I'd like.

Here's the wishlist:
1) Does well with no-spray
2) Blooms as much as possible
3) Has a good fragrance (either wafting or smells good when you stick your nose in a bloom)

Here's the list of finalists:

-General Schablikine
-Mme Abel Chatenay
-Mme Lombard
-Mrs. B.R. Cant (will this one take pruning to keep it in bounds?)
-Mrs. John Laing
-Radox Bouquet
-Frederic Mistral

Any remarks in favor of or against these roses would be greatly appreciated, as we don't have the room for roses that won't fully earn their keep. Thanks in advance!


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RE: Only have room for 1 or 2 roses...help me pick!

My Radox is more disease resistant than my Freddie. Both are mighty tall roses. Radox is smaller blooms but the clusters are beautiful bouquets. Freddie is good if you want long stems. Both last well in a vase and repeat well but I think Radox has had more flowers over the year. For both roses the fragrance is strong and sweet. I never tried to keep my Radox short but I think Freddie will always want to be very tall. He doesn't seem to want to bloom until the canes get long. Mom can never remember the name and calls it Radish Bouquet.


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RE: Only have room for 1 or 2 roses...help me pick!

I wouldn't be without Mrs. B.R. Cant. She smells divine and has no disease issues here.


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RE: Only have room for 1 or 2 roses...help me pick!

My Frederic Mistral is wider than it is tall, but it's still plenty big and vigorous in all directions. It's my favorite of all my roses for it beautiful scent. I don't know about disease (we don't have BS here), but FM is a thrips magnet, and that is it's main downfall for me. Diane


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RE: Only have room for 1 or 2 roses...help me pick!

Mrs. John Laing has gorgeous fat blooms, but she is not that disease-resistant. Perhaps somewhat better than average, but I'd expect her to be destroyed by BS in New Orleans. In fact, I wonder if any rose is safe from BS there. Hope you get responses from some folks from your area since I'm not an expert on BS in your area, but here in Kansas she is likely one of the first roses to show BS signs in my garden.

Wish I could help you on the others, but I do not grow them.

Kate


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RE: Only have room for 1 or 2 roses...help me pick!

Thanks for the feedback so far. I have had roses down here before, and perhaps went a big hog wild trying to fit as many roses as I could on a very small property before.

These are the ones I've had before:

Ducher
Lamarque
Ruby Vigorosa
Souvenir de la Malmaison X
Pink Gruss an Aachen X
Buff Beauty
Belinda's Dream
Old Blush
Cl. Cramoisi Superieur
Duchesse de Brabant*

Most of those did fine (SDLM and Pink GAA as the big exceptions). I absolutely loved the DdB and am actually thinking of getting her again. I love her fragrance, and she seemed to do rather well considering what an over-crowded area she was in (the last 7 roses listed were in a strip about 5-6'x20'). But because I have such limited rose space at the new house, I want to make sure that whatever rose(s) I get I'm going to absolutely love, and with the exception of the Duchesse, none of the others qualified for me.

So based on the comments above, perhaps my list of finalists should now look like this:

-General Schablikine
-Mme Abel Chatenay
-Mme Lombard
-Mrs. B.R. Cant
-Radox Bouquet
-Duchesse de Brabant

And in terms of size, I'd like to be able to keep the bush to a 6' diameter. Will Mrs. B.R. Cant be able to withstand that much pruning?


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RE: Only have room for 1 or 2 roses...help me pick!

Mrs. B.R. Cant is one of the really large tea roses with a very spreading habit and I have some doubts about it being happy with being chopped back continuously. Since you like DdB, would you consider her lovely sport, Mme. Joseph Schwartz? What about early hybrid teas like the very fragrant La France? I don't know what does well in your climate, and hope that more people near your area can advise you.


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RE: Only have room for 1 or 2 roses...help me pick!

Mme Joseph Schwartz is pretty large. Mine is about 5'tall by 6' wide. Lovely blooms with huge fragrance, though!


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