This sort of baiting is tantamount to people who start to tell you a really juicy bit of gossip then, halfway through, decide they have a moral conscience - well I don't so spill the beans.

Why the ban? I hate censorship as a matter of principle but I guess there were reasons?

So, does it rhyme with Raves Harden?

Melissa

If we can't say it here, I didn't even know, but I'll be careful in case. Hope it helps, lol.

I know there is competition between websites, I use that other D word one regularly too.

Forums can be a lot of work to run, guessing this one has a staff that needs their salaries paid too so I can understand not wanting to promote others...but still banning and name calling is not a great way to go.

I have a few different forums I enjoy, one had a supreme ruler, he would some times allow discussion he did not agree with, but you never would know when he would agree in an email and then throw you under the bus to impress others. He makes some $$ off the Amazon links.

The other has a panel of moderators and keeps nastiness to a minimum. They even change some words if you try and use them...makes it interesting if some one is discussing their female dog in heat...lol But, I like the way that forum works, and the people that run it make money not only with ads, but selling "titles" and their "Dummy" book and other things as well.

interesting how forums can work

That is me in the middle, flanked by my friends the Gazders of the UK.

I sure hope somebody in the know gives a more precise id for the sandy dry camel site. I like camels and might care to visit!

Melissa

So we have watchdogs chasing dromedaries in the desert? Would those be Salukis? I'm wild about Salukis.

ROFL :D

I think all this other stuff about arid-dromedary-whateverness is a red herring.

Anyway, this one time, at band camp.....

Our current dog is nearing the end of her wordly existence and I may check into a Saluki for our next. I wonder if they are diggers?

She was also an escape artist in her younger days, and we've had to reinforce & shore up all of the perimeter fence and 3 gates. She used to escape at least twice daily. Now she prefers to snivel at all manner of rodents that come to terrorize the garden. I'd be just fine with a dog that will snatch vermin for us. I consider the cats that sneak in and defecate in the shade garden to be a special kind of vermin lately.

I'm familiar with that howl. At Saturday football games, there were always a pair of Salukis on the sideline who were remarkably reserved and quiet....until the goal-horn went off and then the howls would erupt. When I was there the team was quite terrible, so the eruptions were few & far between.

Long long ago, before this site was owned by iVillage, GardenWeb's Roses Forum was run by a king named Spike. Spike was a benevolent ruler, but was slow to forgive if you crossed him. If you violated his rules, he would give you a warning. If that warning was ignored, he would ban you from his kingdom and send you to Disneyland. Literally, if you tried to go to the Roses Forum, you would end up at disneyland.com. One of the main rules was that if you were a vendor, you couldn't post anything that could be perceived as an advertisement for your products. There was one individual vendor who kept posting about his roses in a way that could be perceived as promoting them. The strong arm of Spike finally sent him to Disneyland forever. There was an outcry among the people and one by one, they too were exiled to Disneyland. Finally, the protests grew so numerous that Spike decided that to end the rebellion once and for all, no one could post the name of the original vendor or the word "Disneyland." If you did, you would find yourself automatically forwarded to disneyland.com. Hence, if you wanted to discuss the matter, you had to refer to the "D" site, referring to "Disneyland."

The band of banned rosarians moved to a different site to discuss their rose issues. The original small time vendor's business closed many years ago, like so many other rose sellers. Spike sold his kingdom to iVillage and moved on. And so, this story was lost to the sands of time.

Jeri

(Probably has to be viewed with Google chrome not Explorer)

I also understand the wariness regarding the advertising suggestion I proposed on that other thread. Makes sense.

I also giggle that sometimes credibility is afforded to a post for its lengthiness or for mentioning someone else's name. I think we should start calling it the "Ed McMahon Method of Truthery."

I honestly don't know who the mods are or how involved they are. It seems that pretty much anything flies unless someone files a complaint on a post. I did/do enjoy seeing the vendors here as forum posters, because I'd rather buy from someone who participated with us as a discussion partner and not some voiceless, faceless person with whom I'd never interacted (except for sales transactions).

Disparage my albas, I will politely thank you for your contribution; but say that your Cherokee Purple tastes better than my Brandywine, of which I have the One and Only Original Strain, why, where I come from thems fightin' words.

Nastarana, who does know that our iconic Brandywine tomato was actually selected in England, for growing on south-facing walls like the ones in BBC's Victorian Gardens, but realizes it would never do to say so at any of the tomato_____ fora. It also occurs to Nastarana that if you trellis Brandywine's 15+ ft. vines on a wall you might even get some tomatoes throughout the entire season instead of just one in time for Thanksgiving.

Of course your Cherokee Purples tasted better than the pathetic excuses for Brandywines which are available in commerce at present. I have the One, True, Original Brandywine Strain, preserved for 50 years in a freezer on an island in the Irish Sea, and shared with me by my dear friend Mme. Tomatonose. I can send you a pair of seeds, once I determine your worthiness to receive them. If interested, please PM me with details of parentage and curriculum vitae so I can check Who's Who and the Almanach de Gotha for pedigree.

Needless to say, I have nothing to do with those vulgar Celebrities, (shudder) and neither will you once you have been admitted to the halls of vegetable snobbery.

Nastarana, who knows that rose snobs have nothing on vegetable snobs, and that the most exclusive club in all gardendom is, no, not orchid fanciers, but....tomato snobs!

LOL

I do enjoy some of the other forums, clearly I need to go visit the tomato people!

I do feel bad for those people posting in the citrus forum about their indoor back east or other cold location folk who try and grow oranges in doors. I might have to go take some pictures of my semi-dwarf meyer than has been in the ground less than a year and set half a dozen nice looking fruit.... meanie that I am!

Now don't ask me the best way to make them, as that's another flame war waiting to happen :D

BTW, I remember being sent to Disneyland a few times many yrs ago....

Beth, try the Cherokee Purple, they are good too.

Heck you have to pay to post there....
Definitely not worth it....
Nobody there knows jack about roses....

No names, town, or country shall be mentioned in the story below.

It's to do with orchids. When it comes to the extremes of orchid collections, there are simply no boundaries. But once a collection is garnered, the next thing would be to let the world know about it. How else would one justify the cost of the hobby.

In any case, one avid collector found the latter to be a costly proposition. He was so enthused about his collection that he started to seriously take photoslides of his plants and was going around the different clubs showing them off (ok, this was before the days of the internet and when the Kodachrome and the slide carousel ruled supreme). He woke up after one frosty winter's night to find that someone had sneaked into his into his backyard greenhouse, and made off with $20,000 worth of his priced orchid (I suppose that will be about $40,000 in today's money). It was obvious that someone who had expert orchid knowledge, and had really paid attention to his slide shows, saw the golden opportunity. The thief had meticulously picked the rarest, most expensive and the most coveted of his specimens.

To this day, the mystery of the disappearing exotic orchids remains unsolved.

They have word in their circles for these extremes of fanatic collection and obsession - Orchidelirium; which apparently, is one level of intensity above orchidmania.

I doubt us rose gardeners suffer the same security night mares as orchid collectors. That said, I woke up one morning about ten years ago, to find all the emerging rose buds (and other flower buds), cleanly pruned off, and left in piles in my front yard.

At one of the National meetings, a famous exhibitor who lived in the city that was hosting the meeting had his garden vandalized shortly before the meeting.

One year I planted all kinds of veggies out by the street. Lettuce, carrots, tomatoes, peppers. Nobody took any. The most asked for thing is some rosemary from my hedge. Everybody likes to pet that hedge as they walk by.