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mzstitch 10 (
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Sat, Sep 15, 12 at 7:45
I bought 4 Austins in May at Roses Unlimited. Grace, Carding Mill, Lady Emma Hamilton and Tea Clipper. All bloomed beautifully throughout the summer except for Tea Clipper. Tea Clipper has grown beautifully, it is now 4 ft tall, but it has not yet given me one bloom! Not one! I'm so disappointed, just loved the one planted at Roses Unlimited, their well established plant was covered with roses. It is now September 15th, and I still don't even have a bud!
Tea Clipper owners out there, can you tell me why? |
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You mean Tease Clipper
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- Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
Sat, Sep 15, 12 at 16:02
| Mine is seriously stingy too, though this year (year four) I did get at least a dozen flowers strung out over the past five months--that's two whole flowers per month! Amazing! And mine is seven feet tall. :( I'd ask Pat at RU how she gets flowers out of the darn thing. I can't. The problem is the two flowers per month are so ridiculously beautiful I can't shovel the thing...yet... The June two:
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| Apparently Tea Clipper hasn't heard the saying, "first year sleep, second year creep, third year leap!" Or maybe it has--this jingle doesn't mention FLOWERS!LOL Melissa |
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Hoovb thanks for posting your pictures, I'll just have to enjoy yours this year! Hmmm, maybe I should make it my wallpaper on my computer so I can do just that!
I haven't ordered for next year, so when I do I will ask Pat if she has any advice, hers was seriously covered. I wonder if I could peg it? If I remember right hers was very low to the ground, I don't think it was pegged though.
Melissa, trust me I've been singing yelling and pleeding everything possible to my teaclipper! This is such a beautiful rose, I want it to bloom!!!! |
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| Be patient. I planted it and it did nothing for 2 years then this: 
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| It's an English Musk - give it time they are slow lol. |
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- Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
Sun, Sep 16, 12 at 2:48
| I did self-peg mine, it helped a bit. Maybe next year... |
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| Yes, I think pegging would work. I have mine just free standing and it fountains on it's own and will then put out more blooms. I have to remove the rose next to it and let it spread out more and become more horizontal. It has a nice scent too. |
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Buford, thank you for the additional pictues. Caldonbeck and buford, I am trying to be patient, but couldn't I have just one bloom!? Okay, do you think I should peg now, or wait til next spring. Secondly, It's already four feet, should I prune it back in Feb. like I prune the rest or leave it alone?
I'm thinking it will get too big if I don't prune it back, and I will have more to work with pegging in Feb. if I leave it alone. |
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| Ah well....warm climates and tall DA roses. I agree that letting them octopus out to the side helps with the blooming. So does having them grow in a spot 4 or more years until they get cozy. Having them own rooted seems to be a great benefit ( more flowers, less canes ) UNLESS they don't like my alkaline soil like Mary rose, W.Shakespeare 2000, or Eglantyne. I tried the DA pruning and staking them up. Letting them flop gave me more flowers. I think some just want to be in cooler weather. As soon as it cools, I always get a bunch of beautiful K. Morleys. It's only for the loveliness of the flowers that I keep these stingy plants. I know it's not the same but Ambridge rose and Abe. Darby flower continually all year here in Central Orange CO., CA. Some of the most spectacular DA roses will just never be great bloomers where it's warm. I've tried the best food, huge amounts of water, almost everything to get some of these to put on a decent show of flowers. |
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| We are in different zones, but here is what I would do. Instead of cutting back all canes to a shorter length, take out a few canes (if it has a lot) and then peg the remaining canes. This way the bush will take up less room, but you will get more blooms. I've done this with Tradescant, which had threatened to take over one of my beds. You get a more compact bush with more blooms. The only problem with pegging is that it makes it a bit more difficult to maintain year to year. I think this year, I will have to do Tradescant to get some new canes. Here is a picture of how it looked one spring with being pegged: 
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First, I'm sorry, I forgot to put my zone it at 7b. I am in South Carolina. (My computer always enters 10 as a default for some reason.) Buford, this is a young plant so it doesn't have too many canes, without going outside to look I would say it has about 5 or 6 tall 4-5ft canes. Then it has some smaller to the sides . So I will wait and peg it sometime early next year. Should I do it in Feb when I am pruning my others? Please be more specific as to maintaining pegging year to year? Do you just mean moving them as they grow out? I have never pegged, but have viewed an online video.
Kittymoonbeam, thank you for your response as well, sorry I had my zone wrong. My other three Austins definitly have more truer color of blooms now that the weather has cooled. All plants are in full sun all day. |
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| I would do it in the spring, before it leafs out. Then instead of getting one bloom or a cluster on the end, you'll get many along the cane. It's basically turning it into a climber without a structure. What I mean by maintaining is that normally you want new canes every 2-3 years. So I think you'll have to remove some of the older canes that are pegged and start new ones. I haven't done this yet and not sure how complicated it will be to unpeg it and figure out what canes to cut. Not every year, maybe every 2-3 years. I'm thinking of pegging Mary Rose. She also throws out these long canes. Heritage as well. Heritage seems to 'self peg' in that the long canes will bend on their own and put out laterals. |
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| Buford thank you so very much for all of your help. Now I just wait for Feb, (but I'll still secretly be begging my tea clipper for just one bloom this year! lol.) |
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| I pegged my Tea Clipper 3 years ago but the tip of the stem/canes(?) turned brown and died. Do you guys have this problem? Anyway, my rose didn't survive the transplant. It's a lovely rose but it didn't bloom much for me. |
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- Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
Mon, Sep 17, 12 at 10:42
| I think I read somewhere once that you have to make sure the tip is not the lowest point of the cane. That's what makes it die. Make the last foot or so horizontal. But I don't remember where I read that, and it is a GUESS, not for sure. The tips of mine died with the self pegging, but they don't really show. Also, remember prompt deadheading (if there is anything to deadhead!) |
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| You made me laugh out loud hoovb. I dream of deadheading this rose! lol. |
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She may be mean but she's a beaut! Gorgeous (well, when she wants to be). *ahem*
La Belle Dame sans Merci |
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| Keep trying. I wish I could grow this rose. |
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- Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
Wed, Sep 19, 12 at 11:50
| La Belle Dame sans Merci There you go. No, wait--that's 'Evelyn'. ;^) |
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| Ooh! I thought she had a good rep? |
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