I just let the roses kill off old leaves when they want to. The plants know what they are doing with that.

Well that's a good thing andreark! :)
I let the roses kill off old leaves as needed also...

andreark,

Best thing to do is take clear pics of your problem
and post them on here for help on id-ing the problem...

But glad things turned out ok...No BS! REJOICE!

Jim,
I know you hate the deer that eat your roses, but they are so very beautiful. Give them a big smooch for me.

andrea

P.S. What do you mean I'm silly?

silly? lol Not sure what you mean...lol

Anyhow that is Steve who has deer problems so Steve will have to kiss his deer for you...lol

No deer here...

oooooops. (red faced also)

andrea

Does your leaf problem look anything like this?
{{gwi:325170}}

Definitely not. I (with a little help from my friends) have decided that I don't have any diseases, just leaves getting old.

Thanks for the photo,

andrea

While we're looking at it, the photo shows not blackspot but either cercospora or spot anthracnose (but Paul already knew that).

I thought that the spots looked too small and maybe not dark enough.....

Thanks both of you. I may make a roser yet.

andrea