Chamblee's also has a "Cream Veranda", which IS on HMF. I assume that Lavender Veranda would be comparable in size, bloom and (hopefully) vigor, since it's part of a series.

John

Good job, Kim. I was too lazy to go check the ARS registration, lol.

John

John

I came away with a trunkful of roses, Lavender Veranda and Plum Perfect among them. I am not sure if PP is a floribunda, shrub or what. Does anyone know? I was surprised to find neither on HMF. Also got Savannah, Twilight Zone and Blue For You. Some of these are small so will probably grow them out in their pots for awhile - but very healthy, as are all Chamblees roses. In spite of the heavy rain, it was a fun day - disappointed to not be able to see the big municipal rose garden - but that will be a trip for another day.

I saw blooms on all these roses and they look really pretty! Think I will take Kim's advice and disbud them and go for growing roots instead of blooms.

Would enjoy hearing any information about these two....
Judith

Lavender Veranda KORfloci67 is a rose you will not find in the Kordes Germany catalog but has been available in N. America for some years. It is part of the Veranda collection which are compact floribunda roses suitable for patio containers and small gardens. Beautiful high-centered bud and lovely color - no scent. Good on disease. it is available in an increasing number of nurseries.

Plum Perfect KORvodacom is a large floribunda with deep plum colored flowers and very dark green foliage. It likes the heat and humidity of the south but is quite cold hardy. Alas it looks like it should have scent but it does not. I think at this time Chamblee might be one of the few nurseries carrying this rose but hopefully there will be wider distribution soon. This rose was never introduced in Europe so there is not another commercial name.

With regard to not finding the parentage on the patent - often the parents are not commercial cultivars, but if you went back a couple of generations there is probably a commercial rose in the lineage. What the US patent office is asking for is parent identification. This is why you see un-named seedling in the patent documents.

My experience is that HMF is not limited to identifying just the roses registered with ARS but do include all the information they come across on various web sites.

The new introduction for 2014 is Savannah KORvioros PPAF which is a really nice rose and if you bought one this fall then you bought one of the first ones available to the public. It is an HT medium pink probably 120 petal flat cup shape. It has mahogany red stems and very dark green leathery foliage. It is exceptional on disease resistance and loves the hot humid climates. What is really special is the fragrance very strong old rose scent. This is the first introduction of this variety and it is not available anywhere else than N. America and is not sold elsewhere under another name. Chamblee roses is the first company to have it in production.

So Greenheart is a producer of liners for wholesale growers. Ball Seed is a distributer of liners to wholesale growers. Newflora is the representative of Kordes roses in N. America. All of the Kordes roses come through quarantine and are introduced into the market by Newflora. Roses cannot be imported into the USA because of quarantine requirements.

I hope this clears up a few questions.

Persistence led me here which says Plum Perfect is 'Thank You Rose'. That leads to the HMF page linked below. The Chamblees listed Plant Patent # 22691 agrees with the 'Thank You Rose' listing.

I did not find any ADR information - it may still be in the testing phase - or not; I don't know.

Lavender Veranda is a beautiful shade of light lilac, lighter than Plum Perfect. It is a small bloom so I am planting mine where they can be viewed at the front of the border.
Judith