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| I'm looking for a list of your best disease resistant NO-Spray roses...Bush size: 3' - 4.5' / Blooms do not fade a lot or blow fast/ Bloom size: 3" - 4"/ fragrance not an issue/ Brighter colors a plus/ moderate to heavy bloomers.
No HT's please...lol Thank you all very much... |
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| Be aware, when you get a list of plants, that the most meaningful information will be from your own general area. And when you say "disease," that you're all in the same pew. "Disease" in one area means one thing -- something quite different in a different climate. (Which is why I offer you NO suggestions.) Jeri |
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| I will try to help later, but with summers of over 100 degrees, "blow fast" is the only way they grow. I am anxious to read the list. Sammy |
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| Have you all seen the list that I put on my blog earlier this year ... or was it last year. Anyway, after a hot and dry summer last year, and a glitch in my drip irrigation system that I didn't know about until some time in August, I made a list of the roses in my garden that looked surprisingly good. Jim, none of them were HTs. I don't know if you could do the teas and chinas that are on the list, but the climbers, ramblers, and polyanthas are definitely a possibility. Some roses that weren't around to make it to the list last year, but have been stand-outs this year are some of the lesser-known Austin roses that are in my newest garden (planted as babies last October). As I wandered that garden yesterday morning, I was amazed at how great some of these looked. Sir Clough I did a blog post last week about Souvenir de la Malmaisson, which was beautiful until our week of rain that spoiled the flowers. There are plenty of buds, so she will be beautiful again in a few days. There are probably more, but these are what I can think of off the top of my head right now. Connie Sir Clough is especially lovely! |
Here is a link that might be useful: The blog post with the list and photos.
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- Posted by flaurabunda 5b (My Page) on Fri, Sep 30, 11 at 10:26
| Jim, Have you considered minis and minifloras? I have quite a few that are super-easy to care for, have better disease resistance than their big sisters, and some of them are tidy little self-cleaners. I have one shrub/floribunda I can suggest: Kanegem. It's screaming-hot orange with perfect form, blooms hang on for about 5 or 6 days, but no scent. Daddy Frank has been exceptional for me in its first year. Flawless is a medium pink, and although classified as a miniflora, the blooms in my yard are the same size as my floribundas. Blooms last for well over a week and are beautiful at all stages from a tight, dark spiral to fully-open and nearly white. HMF says 'strong fragrance', but that's a bit over the top. I'd describe it as 'SOME fragrance'. |
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| In my no spray garden I do see blackspot and leaf drop in late summer, (however, this does not diminish the vigor of the roses.) Some of the roses hold onto their leaves a little better than the others. Pink Promise is a Hybrid Tea, but it is so exceptional I thought I'd mention it.... It is vigorous, blooms all summer. The leaves are large and glossy. It often blooms in clusters, the blooms have an apple scent with a hint of Tea Rose. It grows to 3-4 feet tall here. Perfume Delight is new to my garden, (another Hybrid Tea), so excellent that I thought I'd mention it as well... It's been a bloom machine this summer, always in bloom, sometimes producing clusters of blooms. Leaves are large, and abundant. It has a strong, pleasing fragrance. The Austin rose Bishop's Castle is a great rose. It has glossy leaves, dark pink blooms. Repeat bloom is good, it grows to about 4 feet tall here. Pink Promise
Bishop's Castle
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| Yes I'm interested in roses grown on the east coast that are very Blackspot,anthracnose, powdery mildew, etc. But rose growers from other areas can list also to help people from their regions... Thanks for all the suggestions, very much appreciated! |
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| Blackspot Hades here. Blushing Knock Out (gets huge, mine is 6'), Floral Fairy Tale (first year, in a pot, still small, 2'), Caramel Fairy Tale (4' - 5'), White Pet (3' - 4', can be kept smaller). None have been treated with fungicide this year, all still have leaves. |
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| Nice pics Krista! Again, thanks all for these suggestions... |
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- Posted by wirosarian z4 WI (My Page) on Fri, Sep 30, 11 at 12:03
| I've seen real good disease resistance with the Easy Elegance roses (they are supposed to be selected for their disease resistance). Here are a few that I have:
Love & Peace is a Hyb Tea and not an EE rose but is hyb. by the same hydridizer & seems to have good disease resistance also. |
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| Pink Promise is not new, forgot to mention... been growing this rose for a few years, (I have two of them.) It does very well through winter, hardy. Bishop's Castle I've also had for a number of years, winter hardy. |
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| Strawberryhill, thank you for the kind words. Pink Promise is a winner for sure, lovely all summer; I love it. |
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| Since Love & Peace (the HT) was mentioned, I'll weigh in on my experience: while it has more leaves than the other HTs, and is somewhat resistant here, it does much better when treated with a fungicide. |
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| Wow, some great pics and suggestions...Thanks all! |
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| I live in an area with a lot of blackspot, and my garden is, for the most part, no spray (I only spray about every 4-6 wks). The ones that I have basically no problems with are: Easy Does It (and it is in a damp location) |
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| don't spray so nearly all my roses look grin towards the end of the summer. However, there are a very few which remain completely healthy. Kordes roses are usually good for me, especially the standout sommerwind (Surrey? Sussex?). Jasmina is also green and lush. Austins - well apart from Wild Edric and Graham Thomas, Austins are all more or less defoliated by now...oh, yes, there is also Snowgoose, also healthy and vigorous. The biggest surprise has been the absolute health of two hulthemias - Eyes for You and Alissar, Princess of Phoenicia - both of these have not had the slightest trace of BS or mildew, even though every other rose in the vicinity is suffering. The multiflora ramblers, Ghislaine de Feligonde and Goldfinch, along with HMs Penelope and Moonlight (unlike Buff beauty, Francesca and Danae)remain BS free. My most vigorous rambler is Leontine Gervaise - glowing and healthy, while the spins remain lushly foliated, able to deal with anything. Most of the species roses renain clean - Moyessii and Californica semi-plena are outstanding. Finally, Meg, a climber which is often described in less than glowing terms, looks free of disease in my allotment. Have high hopes of Nahema too. |
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| Many Buck roses are disease resistant. Try: Carefree Beauty Country Dancer Prairie Harvest Earthsong Quietness (Note: Distant Drums and Freckles listed above are Buck roses) |
Here is a link that might be useful: Buck Rose website
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| Thanks all for your suggestion, much appreciated! |
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| predfern's list sounds like a good one for Jim's climate. |
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- Posted by littlesmokie Portland z8 (My Page) on Sun, Oct 2, 11 at 13:22
| Far and away the best for me: Marie Curie Heirloom Roses renamed it-grr-and sells it as "Romantic Dreams." Peachy-pink floribunda? shrub? I'd say medium fragrance (it will carry on a good day, but it doesn't have much clove scent to my nose) and sets orange hips. I am no spray and battle blackspot, powdery mildew, rust, cercospora, anthracnose, and downy mildew various years on various roses. Marie Curie is in a pretty shady spot (she only gets some am sun) and has been clean for 7? years. (One year it got either anthracnose or cercospora spot, I can't remember now, so it is susceptible to something, but not susceptible to the big 3 here (BS/PM/rust) and shook it off and kept going the following years just fine. Other most disease resistant (all are fragrant) roses here: |
Here is a link that might be useful: Marie Curie
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| Healthiest all season, even after being transplanted to the new bed in 90 degree heat in July, are Brilliant Pink Iceberg, Appleblossom Flower Carpet, Julia Child, Zenaitta and Home Run. All had little or no black spot at all and never defoliated like soooo many others did. All the HTs are practically nekkid! A lot of the minis did spot but they grow and replace their leaves so quickly that you hardly have time to notice. Plus they bloom like mad! |
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- Posted by littlesmokie Portland z8 (My Page) on Sun, Oct 2, 11 at 21:45
| Oh! How could I forget my other most disease resistant rose?! Moonbeam: semi double, fragrant ivory blooms, an older/less popular David Austin. No disease, decorative hips, and not many thorns to boot. I've seen it carried by Rogue Valley Roses. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Moonbeam
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- Posted by sc_gardener zone 5 (My Page) on Mon, Oct 3, 11 at 8:11
| I do not have it myself, but I drive past a bush that I suspect is "Carefree beauty" or "Earthsong" every day and that thing is awesome... Personally - I recommend the Kordes roses, the fairytale series (cinderella is lovely). So far, no spray a tiny bit spotty but nothing to worry about. They have almost no scent though, if that is important to you. |
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| Scent is NOT important to us. Heavily scented roses make both my wife & I sneeze badly...lol Thanks again everyone for suggestions... |
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- Posted by sandandsun 9a FL (My Page) on Sun, Aug 26, 12 at 22:31
| Hi, Did you get some disease resistant roses from the suggestions in this thread? If so, are they performing well? |
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- Posted by kittymoonbeam 10 (My Page) on Fri, Dec 21, 12 at 21:13
| Fogrose has a good discussion of foolproof/ healthy no-spray antiques right now on the antique rose forum. |
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| I don't know if Chinas and Noisettes grow as far north as you seem to be, but my Louis Philippe, Ducher, Spice, Champney's Pink Cluster, Old Blush, Prosperity also my Kordes and Drift roses all survived last summer with no BS, no Chili-thrips, and no Canker...which killed off most of my HTs and Modern roses.... I am getting more Drift and Kordes, and also Biltmore roses, to see how resistant they are.....seems the newer roses are being bred better than some of the older ones....sally |
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- Posted by sc_gardener zone 5 (My Page) on Tue, Dec 25, 12 at 11:27
| I am zone 5 chicago area. Most disease free: Kordes - Eliza (a grandiflora), Elegant fairytale, sisters fairy tale, pomponella (though I do not like as it is ungainly bush form and has ugly flowers after the first flush) and austin: heritage and the generous gardener. Also floribundas: white ma perkins and valentine Also: I rarely spray, do not winter protect much (a few leaves) and do not overdo the watering either. |
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