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| The only white rose I have in my garden of 18 hybrid teas, is sugar moon.
It was planted this spring as a bare root and did not bloom this year so don't know whether it is a keeper. Any suggestions for a good white? |
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| Sugar Moon is a good white. I just got one and it's small but has had one bloom and I like it. And, it has a nice scent. A lot of people here who have planted it like it. I got it after looking online for a good white, and this looked like the best choice. |
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| I love Sugar Moon, beautiful blooms and the fragrance is delicious. |
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| My local nursery tends to have fairly mature roses in 5 gallon pots. They had about 6 Sugar Moons and I was having a tough time deciding which one to buy. All had at least 5 blooms - some double that. The blooms are delicious - gorgeous high centered HT form to start, opening up into a beautiful double with striking but tasteful red stamens. I keep reading all these awesome reports on Pope John Paul II. Don't have it to speak to though. |
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- Posted by HerdingCats none (My Page) on Sat, Oct 6, 12 at 11:48
| Since Harmony mentioned Pope John Paul II, let me give it my vote. I LOVE PJPII. It is the ONLY rose in bloom right now in my garden; it's fragrant, it's got blooms that are amazing, holds well as a cut flower, and is healthy and sturdy. I have easily 12 blooms open on one bush, and another 8-10 waiting in the wings. On the other bush, I've got 8-10 buds. It has the classic HT bloom form, and the bush itself is a tidy but vigorous grower. I can't begin to describe the bloom's luminescence, or the brilliant white color. Nor can I describe the fragrance. All I can really say is that I've looked for MORE PJPs to put in places in my garden...I like it that much. You're not going to go wrong with this bush. You really aren't. (Rave review, in other words.) Best- |
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| I agree with Herding Cats....PPJII is most outstanding rose. Lesley |
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| I think you have two excellent recommendations! I'm thinking about getting Pope John Paul II myself, since I love to have cut roses and the Sugar Moon is the only white that I have so far. |
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- Posted by kittymoonbeam 10 (My Page) on Sun, Oct 7, 12 at 1:25
| Bolero is looking promising and smells very good if you like the old fashioned look. White Lightning is called a grandiflora but for me is a largish floribunda and has nice scent. The flowers come on regularly. PJPII is my best fragrant white. I really like Jardins Bagatelle although its not a pure white. Full Sail was a good bloomer but I could never smell the honeysuckle fragrance everyone was talking about. Same thing with Sombrueil- lots of flowers but I can't smell tea fragrance at all. People tell me it smells wonderful and I just have to take their word. |
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- Posted by ken-n.ga.mts 7a/7b (My Page) on Sun, Oct 7, 12 at 11:59
| Tineke is a great white HT. Beautiful blooms, long stems, smells good, beautiful foliage and lasts a long time in the house. More people need to grow this beauty. |
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- Posted by professorroush 6A (My Page) on Sun, Oct 7, 12 at 12:10
| Why not Frau Karl Druschki? A perfectly white hybrid perpetual with a tough nature. |
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- Posted by kstrong 10 So Cal (kathystrong@gmail.com) on Sun, Oct 7, 12 at 22:10
| Sugar Moon won the Int'l Rose Trials at Rose Hills last wkend -- so I guess it's a keeper. It also won for best scent, which I think is ridiculous. Yes, it smells, but it smells like cold cream -- yech. It gets really big here -- 8 feet. |
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- Posted by harborrose 8a-PNW (My Page) on Mon, Oct 8, 12 at 1:13
| Sebastian Kneipp has a very strong sweet myrrh scent. I love it. |
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- Posted by cupshaped_roses (My Page) on Mon, Oct 8, 12 at 18:32
| Not a pure white - it is however the most amazing almost white HT. Healthy - vigorous - very fragrant! Chandos Beauty: |
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| Pope John Paul II is wonderful for fragrance and cutting. It has a beautiful strong scent and it opens slowly and the substance of the petals is thick so it lasts a very long time. It's slow to repeat though and does black spot for me. |
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| Great photo Neils! It did take a while for PJP II to establish itself, but worth the wait. D- |
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| cup, I adore your Chandos Beauty. How is it with BS? I checked the comments at HMF--couple contradictory comments, but I don't know where those posters were located, so I don't know how to apply their observations to my Zone 6 region. Kate |
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- Posted by cupshaped_roses (My Page) on Tue, Oct 9, 12 at 16:18
| Thanks Doug. The picture is taken by a friend Sye - showing a full bed of these amazing roses. It does have an apricot center - but the flowers fade to white as they age. This rose is becoming very popular here - and it is not hard to see why. A neighbour grew it - and it really did well for them - I also noticed it was doing extraordinary well in the park. My plants (grafted on multi-flora) - took off like very few other roses I have grown!!! Kate - Even in the last 2 very wet and rainy summers - where many roses have gotten more blackspot - and rust - this rose have been totally clean - no BS, rust or mildew. It seems to be disease-resistant - I have not sprayed them - there was no need to. The rose has very healthy glossy leaves - a man filmed in England filmed a potted plant he had bought and put it on YouTube - see link - not the best quality video - but it will give you a look - I am sure if he planted it, it would put out basal shots and grow twice as big - in just a few months. Truly a remarkable rose! |
Here is a link that might be useful: Potted Chandos Beauty - YouTube
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- Posted by kittymoonbeam 10 (My Page) on Tue, Oct 9, 12 at 22:16
| That photo- WOW! It looks like a dream of the Emerald City Royal Gardens ( out of The Wizard of OZ ). My Sugar Moon is not the most fragrant white I have but smells sweet enough to notice it's perfume. I have never thought its fragrance was yucky. |
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| It occurs to me that the most--fragrant white I know is the Hwich climber, 'Sombreuil'. Jeri |
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- Posted by kittymoonbeam 10 (My Page) on Thu, Oct 11, 12 at 15:37
| Here's Bolero in cool weather showing some pink, but later on he's all white. In midsummer, he's mostly white the whole way through. |
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- Posted by kittymoonbeam 10 (My Page) on Thu, Oct 11, 12 at 15:41
| How I wish I could smell Sombreuil. Mine grows very well but I don't have the ability to smell tea fragrance. Here's a view of Sugar Moon impersonating a gardenia. |
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| Kitty -- the climber, Sombreuil, is NOT a Tea Rose. Doesn't smell remotely like any sort of a Tea ... and believe me, I understand, because I can't smell most Teas, either. Sombreuil is a Hybrid wichurana, of unknown origin, which was confused in commerce and supplanted the real Tea, some time in the 20th Century. I can't smell Mlle. De Sombreuil either. but Sombreuil, which we should probably call Colonial White -- that rose is incredibly fragrant. Jeri |
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- Posted by kittymoonbeam 10 (My Page) on Thu, Oct 11, 12 at 20:15
| My mistake. I was going on information from an older book on climbing roses that I have. I didn't know there were two roses by that name. I have been trying to smell the roses on my climber for the longest time. Sometimes, I wish we could find new names for roses when we know the current name is incorrect. So the climber is misnamed and so is the other rose. Is the real Sombreuil extinct? |
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| The true Mlle de Sombreuil was rediscovered by Phillip Robinson. For a while, it was in commerce as La Biche -- but its correct ID was confirmed, and ARS, after much arm-twisting, corrected its records. If you buy a rose sold as La Biche, you have Mlle de Sombreuil. The Climber was once sold as "Colonial White" and I Begged the ARS people to use THAT name, to avoid confusion. But, noooooooo. It is as I said, a remontant Hybrid wichurana. It is classed as a Large-Flowered Climber. We keep going over this because nurseries refuse to correct their records. Jeri |
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