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| I searched, but didn't really come up with exactly what I was looking for. I know that you can pair Clematis with roses, but can you pair Native Honeysuckles with roses?
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| Do you mean with climbing roses? The honeysuckle in my area is crazy, weaves in and out of anything, and dominates whatever you plant it on. I think the native kind is the worst kind. Maybe theres a variety not so invasive? Id hate for it to choke out your roses! |
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- Posted by mendocino_rose z8 N CA. (My Page) on Fri, Oct 2, 09 at 10:26
| I don't know about native honeysuckle but the Hall's Honeysuckle is too vigorous. I'm growing Gold Flame Honeysuckle on a pillar with a climber. It's been pretty mannerly. It doesn't have the scent fo the Hall's though. |
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- Posted by disneynut1977 5A Syracuse NY (My Page) on Fri, Oct 2, 09 at 10:45
| Yes, climbing roses. The honeysuckles I have are hybrids of natives? I think. I know they are NOT the invasive types. I have 7 I just put them in last year and 2 plants I'm gonna leave by itself, but the other 5 I was thinking of adding a climbing rose to the spot also. Melissa1977 |
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- Posted by holleygarden 8/East Texas (My Page) on Fri, Oct 2, 09 at 10:50
| I agree that you would have to really research the right honeysuckle, if there is one that wouldn't overpower a rose. We have some honeysuckle growing wild along one side of our property (haven't got to that side yet), and it is lovely and smells oh-so-good, but the honeysuckle is taking over a small shed there and some trees that are growing there. DH and I have discussed that we are going to have to reign in this honeysuckle a bit so that it doesn't kill the trees! I have no idea what kind of honeysuckle this is - I suppose it was 'planted' by some bird dropping. Perhaps it would be best to go back to a clematis as a companion to your rose and plant a honeysuckle where you can keep it in bounds. |
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| I have a lovely hybrid honeysuckle on my fence, and it needs a full 8' of space and increases every year in spite of rigorous cutbacks each spring. THe combination of roses and honeysuckle is wonderful but I would not advise it in a limited space. |
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| My Mandarin Honeysuckle looks nice in a bed of roses but it needs to be pruned on a regular basis. It doesn't seem to mind any degree of crude hacking.
Below on the left you see it a few years later. The constant pruning has created a tight pyramid about 8' tall and almost as wide. It is still working its way into the roses on either side of it and is difficult to separate from the white hybrid musk next to it.
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- Posted by disneynut1977 5A Syracuse NY (My Page) on Fri, Oct 2, 09 at 16:23
| Thank you so much for the replies. I take it as a no to the rose honeysuckle combo. I need to put another fence in my yard so I have more room for roses, LOL. Harryshoe, your Mandarin Honeysuckle looks so nice. I hope after a few years mine can look like that too. Melissa1977 |
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| The honeysuckle in my area is crazy, weaves in and out of anything, and dominates whatever you plant it on. That's probably the wildly invasive Japanese honeysuckle (Lonicera japonica). At night when it's in bloom it puts a wonderful fragrance in the air, but it is horribly, horribly aggressive. Unfortunately you can still find it for sale. |
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| Alabama Crimson is a cultivated variety of a vining honeysuckle native to eastern North America: Lonicera sempervirens. That species has a much more sedate habit of growth (in the Northeast). The flowers are pretty, but it isn't fragrant. |
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- Posted by techigirl78 5 (My Page) on Mon, Oct 5, 09 at 17:06
| I think the native honeysuckles are ok and have seen this on a few companion lists for roses. It is the japanese ones that would not work well with roses. I have dropmore scarlet and magnifica and they are very gentle with other plants and slower growing. I've had my roses a few months with no issue. Where the vine meets the roses, it is very gentle. Here's a pic of the start of my new rose garden with the honeysuckle off to the side:
My only concern is that I don't use any poisons to battle pests as hummingbirds, bees, and butterflies regularly come to my vines. |
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| I have Goldflame honeysuckle on the side of my pergola with Autumn Sunset and the climber Awakening on the end. I like the yellow and pink combinations of those two roses in complement with the colors of the honeysuckle. I do like Goldflame but it will get powdery mildew later in the season (I don't water this garden) so be aware of that. Mine has western exposure where it only gets late afternoon sun. Perhaps with more sun and water the PM wouldn't be a problem. It stays mannerly and can be chopped back easily where it's not wanted. Some years I cut it right back to a foot high and let it start twining up the lattice all over again to rejuvenate it. I find it has a sweet fragrance, much more than the roses growing with it! The hummingbirds love it too, of course. Autumn Sunset and Goldflame honeysuckle |
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| Linrose: That is a beatiful combination. Congratulations. So answer to the question: If you can find the right combination of compatible plants where honeysuckle will not overtake, it could be quite lovely. |
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- Posted by cupshaped_roses 6b (My Page) on Wed, Oct 7, 09 at 21:52
| I love honeysuckle almost as much as roses. I know that the Japanese honeysuckle is invasive and is very similar to our wild honeysuckle - lonicera caprifolium. It blooms about 3 weeks in may/june and spreads a beautiful fragrance in the evening/nights. I also grow two cultivars of Lonicera periclymenum : 'Belgica' and 'Serotina' the later blooming later and longer than the first 2 (about 5-7 weeks) mid-July. They are indispensible in a romantic or erotic garden, since they can be used to screen and make a garden more secluded and private - under a bower or pergola with cushioned beds - perfect for late evening lovemaking in the garden, on those hot days were the temps cool down around sunset, when it becomes time to light the candles in the lanterns and let the wonderful fragrance enthrall our bodies and souls. I do not think they go that well climbing roses - since the lower parts of the plants become woody as the plant ages and twirls around the rose canes, making the rosecanes entangled. Twirling the growth around a pole or treestub ( 4-8 feet tall) as low as possible - all the time - will produce a dense shrub that can be managed. I think that is what Harry does? Or it can be allowed to climb a low fence, bower or pergola - Like clematis. Unlike type 3 - (late large flowered clematis or the Viticella group clematis, that are great companions for roses, because they have to be pruned so hard each year, and can be taken down and separated from the climbers, honeysuckles are harder to manage and separate and makes pruning and training the climbing roses more difficult - if you are even able to entangle the plants. I could never live with a garden without roses and fragrant honeysuckle. I do not care for cultivars without fragrance - sure you can enjoy the flowers during the daytime - but for me it equals growing roses without a beautiful fragrance. They do attract hummingbirds - I know - but we dont have those over here - instead we have little fairies. |
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