Shelley:

That's very fun. What a neat rose. Good post too thank you for the information. I quite enjoyed your pictures. You know I don't own any roses that are small like The Fawn. I checked it out on HMF after reading your post and there are not many photos there. You might consider adding yours to their humble selection of shots of this beauty.

Now where do I have space for a small rose in the garden..,

Kate

I really dislike renaming roses. Nurseries shouldn't do that.

The Faun is a great rose, and obviously works in widely different climates. Mine blooms non-stop, it's self-cleaning, and shows no disease at all. I'd be interested in seeing how hardy it is. The Fairy is fairly hardy. You plant looks very spready. Mine is pretty much a pincushion. If it actually gets 6 feet wide, mine will be eating its neighbors.

Berndoodle:

What is this roses given name? Or are you referring to the spelling?

Thank you.

Kate

I hate to hog Shelley's thread but if she can humor me with one more question..,may I ask what kind of potting soil/soil in general you use in your half barrels. I have several and would love to use a couple of mine for this purpose. This rose is such a cutie! Even my husband the pink-rose-hater is smitten with this one and has approved the purchase of a couple:)

Thank you. Please forgive my compulsive posting.

Kate

Wow that is a really pretty rose! Thank you for sharing your experience with it.

It looks like the original name is 'Bossa Nova'.

Here is a link that might be useful: helpmefind on this rose

'Bossa Nova' wasn't original and it's a terrible name for this rose. Someone would have to look up which fancy name was registered with ARS, whether it's 'My Ouma,' 'Granny,' or 'The Faun.' Or maybe "The Fawn' by mistake.

Actually, 'Fawn' is more appropriate the 'Faun.' Fauns were not just "dieties of the forest, merry good with little horns, hooves and short tails." They were ribald rapists. Satyrs. Goat-people.

There are so many idiotic rose names. I'm starting a rose naming clinic right now. All ARS submissions must be approved by me. I'll assure there will never be another 'Hot Wonder' or 'Butterfly Kisses' ever again.

Here is a link that might be useful: More information about Fauns

I agree that "Fawn" is better than "Faun" for this rose, but HMF says that Poulsen wanted "Faun." I suggest "The Fang" as another possibility, if you've seen the thorns.

What a beauty Shelly. I really love it. I had 2 fairys in whiskey barrels and they thrived, but I got bored with the fairy's blooms. The blooms on yours are so pretty. And I'm so glad it bounced back for you after all it went through in August. Where on LI are you? I'm in Lindenhurst.

It's a very charming rose, I like the cascading look.

Yup, this is one tough rose. We call ours fawnsie (fonzie) but ours has never jumped over any sharks. This rose gets better every year in my yard.

Kate, I'm glad you liked this rose so much! Maybe I will add pics to HMF. I didn't use any special type of potting soil for this particular rose. I was such a newbie at the time and I think I mixed in regular dirt from the garden with some cheapo potting soil mix and then some manure. That probably all compacted down resulting in the slight decline I saw in the plant this summer. These days I use a brand that I love, it's called Hampton Estate potting mix...comes in a purple bag. It is pricey but so worth it. My roses love it and thrive in it. I'm not sure if it's just a Long Island brand or if they sell it elsewhere.

I should mention that I have no idea of how big this rose could get. My habit from year two has been to prune it between flushes to keep it from overtaking the container and because it seems to promote health, new growth and more blooms.

Berndoodle and Michaelg, I referred to it as "The Fawn" because that's what Heirloom calls it and they were the source for it. I notice it spelled different ways...I think Roses Unlimited sells it as "The Faun". It's just confusing that so many roses go by so many different names.

John W, lol...I agree. How about the name "Happy Butt"...I think that one takes the cake.

Irish Rose Grower, I am in Selden...about a 30-40 min drive east from Lindenhurst. I always feel like I'm about the only person who grows roses in my area...I hardly see any around here! There is the occasional HT and a couple climbing roses that I pass on my way to work. Thank God for the rose forums!

Thanks Krista, I like the cascading look too. I'm just trying to simplify things by getting rid of so many pots on my patio and planting the roses in the ground with the rest of them. I hope I like The Fawn as well when it's not spilling over a pot.

Hoovb, thanks so much for your nice comments.

Shelley

Poulsen bred the rose and can call it what they want. Poulsen's name is actually 'Pouloma.' For marketing, Poulsen can give it a different name in every country, if they choose. All they need to do is refer to the denomination 'Pouloma' + the other market designation. Maybe Poulsen forgot to add The Fawn to their list of names on their website. I'll try to ask them. I can't find where Heirloom mentions 'Pouloma' in association with The Fawn. People buying the rose have no idea that they are getting the rose 'Pouloma.' What if you already owned 'Pouloma' and thought you were getting a new and different rose?

Pouloma a patent rose. You can search patent records all day long and never find a plant patent for The Fawn. You wouldn't know about the patent if someone hadn't figured out that The Fawn is The Faun. That's another reason for roses to be known by their accepted names.

End of rant.

Here is a link that might be useful: {{gwi:332662}}

Danish Rosegrowers are actually proud of the Rose Company "Poulsen Roses". Glad to see this broad bushy floribunda rose is doing so well for you Shelley. They are well known for producing cluster flowering roses

"From Roses of America, by Stephen Scanniello and Tania Bayard, p. 117:] Floribunda (cluster-flowered) roses are the result of crossing polyanthas and hybrid teas. Much of the original work on floribundas was done by Danish hybridizer D.T. Poulsen, who was attempting to raise roses that would flourish in the harsh winters and short growing seasons of Scandinavia. Poulsen introduced what is considered the first floribunda, 'Rodhatte', in 1912, and his sons Dines and Svend continued his work with this type of rose. According to Bob Bauer "rodhatte" or correct "Rødhætte" has 7400 descendants and counting!

I am not sure Poulsen Roses really made the first floribunda rose "Gruss an Aachen" seems to be the first (1909) even though the parentage of that rose is a HP and a HT???

Poulsen Roses have continued to grow roses that are hardy enough to survive our harsh winters (zone 5), and they more than anyone are responsible for the trend of scentless roses that were flowering machines. They have made many awesome roses and I am impressed by the health and vigor of many of the Poulsen Roses. I am even more pleased that they have begun to put emphasis on roses with scent again!!! Poulsen Roses sell more than 30 million roses world wide each year! They have also begun making incredible clematis.

And yes I do find some of the names quite funny. And I do find it totally confusing and unnecessary to have different names in different countries.

Well, now I'm confused. Maybe ten years ago, I wanted to buy the rose that Heirloom called 'The Fawn' and someone posted on the old rec.garden.roses that it was the same rose as 'The Faun'. So, I ordered 'The Faun' from Sequoia and what I got was a tiny-flowered, almost white polyantha which I eventually discarded and replaced with an authentic 'The Fawn' from Heirloom. Sequoia still has 'The Faun' in their supplemental list and terms it a polyantha from 1990. Maybe Sequoia just sent me a mislabled rose and their 'The Faun' is really the same rose as 'The Fawn' (Pouloma) after all?

Whatever its' true name, hats off to the rose I got from Heirloom. It's an absolute knockout (no pun) in full bloom which it often is. It's low and wide, perfect for the front of the border and the flowers are lovely.

I love mine.

Colleen

I've read that Bossa Nova has thin petals and doesn't stand up well to rain and is subject to BS and mildew. Great for warm and dry climates!

I don't think The Fawn is a good name for a pink rose. I associate the word with the colour "fawn", the greyish brown of a deer. I looked up the word because it is the colour so many women wear in the novels by P.D. James!

That's helpful, Mike. Just goes to show that the partial history propounded by the producer isn't nearly so helpful as the real history buried in discarded books. Sequoia's supplemental list shows the date as 1990. So, I read the patent, which says the rose was hybridized in 1983. That lead to the interesting possibility that this rose was introduced much earlier and has been been knocking around in commerce for a while.

The 1990 Combined Rose List has no entry for The Fawn or The Faun, but the 1998 CRL shows "The Faun® (The Fawn) Pol mp Poulsen-AEN 1990" sold by Heirloom, Sequoia, Belle Epoque (The Netherlands) and a couple of other Europeans nurseries. The Faun (ARS AEN) with the synonym The Fawn appears to date back that far. The confusion is all mine.

I recently purchased The Faun from Roses Unlimited, as Pat Henry said it did extremely well in South carolina. I saw hers in person, and it is stunning. I'm guessing that it will also like Florida. Both states are hot and humid.
Since Pat knows I'm a no spray kind of person, I am sure she would not have suggested I would like it if it was not disease resistant.

Shelley, yours is beautiful. Thanks for posting.

Sandy

It's beautiful. John w, I don't see anything wrong with Hot Wonder or Butterfly Kisses, in fact Butterfly Kisses sounds magical to me. Are you really the person who decides what an ok name is for the ARS? I pictured more of a voting group. I hope strange and imaginative names won't be banned forever.
Linda