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spring planted bare roots showing little top growth

Posted by merlcat 7a (My Page) on
Sat, Oct 27, 12 at 11:12

HI there!
I have a couple roses I planted as bare root this past spring. They seemed to start to leaf out and then had some die back. It looked like the original, thick canes were getting black and dying from the tips. The new growth from these canes sometimes withered. Some grew a bit, then turned brown over the season. I carefully pruned back to what looked like healthy cane on the big, original canes.

Currently, they only show one or two small, sort of spindly canes. Several of the original canes seem totally dead. I am sure it is not that they are showing dormancy as the few little canes that are green are still very green and growing. I am hoping that they spent the summer growing nice root systems and will return in the spring with lots of new top growth.

All seem suited for my climate and should withstand the winter. I did bury the grafts a bit just to make sure. They are in spots that get just about the most sun I have here, so I don't think that the lack of top growth is sun related.

Two of them are climbers, so hopefully they will spring back next season.
I guess I am just hoping someone will tell me that there is hope and that these one cane wonders will indeed grow well next season. Hopefully I will see new canes from the buried graft, perhaps?

Anyone want to bolster my confidence on this?? Pretty please? If experience on bare root that don't thrive the first year is that they won't make it, certainly let me know. A couple of the other bare roots seem to be thriving. I have had mixed luck w/ big box bare root so far. A couple have done well over the last couple years. I had mixed results with true rose nursery bare roots, too, so I am not sure what to think. I have three I rooted myself still in post to plant that are doing great so I am not sure if it is just that the bare root choices are not for me.

I plan on not pruning anything now, since that seemed to be what I have learned from my reading here.

Any thoughts?


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RE: spring planted bare roots showing little top growth

  • Posted by seil z6b MI (My Page) on
    Sat, Oct 27, 12 at 11:25

For the climbers in particular be patient. It takes most climbers at least three years to start to really put on any tall top growth. And that's really the minimum of time it can take. Some will take a good 5 years to really climb.

On the others it depends on the variety. But if they don't seem to take off and start to grow next spring I'd cut your losses and replace them. Some of the big box plants aren't very good to begin with so they may never have any vigor. You'll be wasting time and resources on trying to keep them going.

I've always had much better luck with bare roots from nurseries. They normally have larger, healthier root systems to start with since they aren't chopped up to be put in bags or boxes. That's not to say I haven't bought plenty of those bagged or boxed roses before. I have and, like you stated, some do just fine while others never seem to get with the program.


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RE: spring planted bare roots showing little top growth

Thanks, Seil! I agree. I do think some just don't get with the program!
I took a close look today at my pinata roses, and they both have some impressive growth sprouting from their couple canes. I know it is late in the season to expect it to survive, but I am taking it as a good sign that they have been growing roots far and wide for me and will give a push in the right direction in the spring.

I feel a little better about them as they seem like at least the couple canes are apparently vibrant.

Yes, I am expecting much of the climbers, but I am trying to be patient! ;)
IT"S SO HARD!! And now a whole winter to wait!


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