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Posted by siriz 7 (My Page) on Mon, Oct 26, 09 at 12:18
| Planning for next spring in advance, and will be moving 25 roses and replacing with a more 'formal' patterned look (alternating colors). Roses will be against side of house, front of house, and surrounding a large deck. Am thinking of alternating Livin' Easy (orange) with a white (shrub?) rose of some sort. Criteria are disease resistant, shrub type shape (no climbers or very tall) and prefer continual blooming. Zone 7 and they will be in full sun. Any suggestions? |
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| PS - I'm wondering whether Moondance would be too 'columnar' to pair with Livin' Easy, and interested in any pictures (from afar) of Moondance that show general shape, etc. Thanks! |
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- Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
Mon, Oct 26, 09 at 17:37
Other ideas besides 'Moondance':
'Lion's Fairy Tale'. It has a bushy rounded growth habit with some fragrance and good rebloom. 'Bolero' has a rounded, bushy growth habit as well, with a strong fragrance and constant flowers. However, it is much shorter than 'Livin Easy' here.
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It would help if you mention what state you are in. Disease resistant recommendations will depend on this. Zone 7 in TX is different from zone 7 in VA or WA. It will also determine which disease is your main concern.
Olga |
RE: White Rose (landscape) suggestions - I'm in VA!
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| Sorry, thanks for asking! I'm in Central VA - we get humid summers and the roses get lots of sun but lots of humidity. |
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Iceberg will be naked from BS in VA. VA is not an easy place to grow white roses. I am in MD and the only repeat blooming white roses that are resistant for me are Darlow's Enigma and White Cap (not as resistant as DE, but still quite good). But these two will not work as small shrubs. Ducher is relatively resistant here too, but it will get a lot of dieback every spring, especiall during first couple of winters. There are some nice onceblooming roses that will stay healthy, like Alba Maxima and Semiplena, but they are also too big for the task.
Sorry, not much help.
Olga |
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The smallest repeat white bloomer would probably be Lulaby, a polyantha that is too small to fit in with Livin' Easy.
The problem is that you probably want a rose with the same bloom size as LE. That also kicks out both Alba Meidiland and Snowbelt, both of which are wonderfully healthy fungus resistant roses.
Roses Unlimited offers a found rose, Belmont Yellow which has slightly larger blooms, yet it stays short...the yellow in Belmont Yellow is a palest yellow that mellows with age to a creamy white.
Finding a rose that complements and is complemented by Living Easy isn't that easy. |
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| What if I turn to yellow? Anyone have any thoughts on pairing Golden Celebration with Livin' Easy? |
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| If you turn to yellow you might just as well go with the not so identical twin....Easy Goin. I sure do love the combo as most folks know from my many pics of them on the gallery ;-) |
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| Is it fairly BS resistant? In VA, BS is my biggest concern (finally nixed the Jap Beetles). If so, great suggestion, thanks! |
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Both Easy Going and Living Easy are not BS resistant in MD. What part of VA you are in?
Olga |
RE: White Rose (landscape) suggestions - BS resistant?
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| NO NO NO!!!! Not back to the drawing board!!!! Oh phooey.... I am in Central VA, 1.5 hours southwest of DC, 1.5 hours northeast of Charlottesville, 1 hour east of the Blue Ridge. Situated up on a hill so do get lots of air movement. BS is the biggest issue here. If Livin' Easy isn't going to cut it, I need a new color scheme/suggestion :( Sigh.... (new siding is light khaki. It does make the rose color 'pop'. So almost any colors would work, but want to make it a more formal patterned look in front, and the random every color scheme there is in the back.) Looking for roses that are more shrub than arching and not going to exceed about 5 feet with pruning, that do bloom as continually as possible as they will be front and center to entering the driveway/house. |
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| I can't speak to Va of course but the PNW is certainly not a BS free zone by any stretch. I chose them for the 'Easy' reason and they don't disappoint with no spraying. This is pretty much as bad as the foliage gets.......... |
Here is a link that might be useful: PNW8 No Spray Easy
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Perle d'Or is bushy, relatively small and has much better resistance for me then EG and LE. Home Run is relatively healthy and Carefree Sunshine (this one will require quite a lot of prunning to be grown as a bush). Quitness and Earth Song are not bullet proof, but will keep 50% leaves most of the time. Floral Fairy Tale has decent resistance, again not BS free, but better then many others.
Olga |
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Like Olga, who lives in the next county over from me, I haven't had much luck with whites. One that is doing well for me is frau Karl druski.
It's not BS proof, but it's hard to find ones around here that are, but neither is it prima donna. It's a Hybrid Perptual so it's not erect like a HT, but somewhat octopus-like.
I also have John Paul II who seems to be doing well but is too soon to tell. Frau Karl: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=2844 |
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It's plenty humid here and I don't spray so you should be able to grow most things I can.
For a white I really like Fragrant Wave and Livin Easy does well here too although mine got to about 7 feet so you will either have to prune and shape it to stay the size you desire. |
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I am sorry Chuck, but LE is not resistant in Mid Atlantic. It is not just me and my garden, it was discussed here several times.
I do believe that there is more BS in Mid Atlantic then at PNW. I have a friend in Seattle and she can grow no spray many roses that I can't even dream about.
Olga |
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| I'm in Roanoke on a bright sunny breezy mountainside, and I've grown Living East in a no chemical spray garden for two years. If I knew how to take good pictures and transfer them, you could see them still blooming their heads off out my dining room window. They are probably four feet tall and three feet wide. They lost about a third of their leaves mid-summer, and I sprayed with fish emulsion. They leafed out again and kept right on blooming. I have three shrubs grouped together and they are beautiful, full of buds this late in the season. The blooms smell good and last several days in a vase. I find they mix well in a vase with Julia Child and, strangely enough, with Lady Elsie Mae for an exotic flamboyant look. If you can tolerate a spate of black spot without wigging out, they make a gorgeous shrub. The blooms are visible 50 feet from the street. |
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I have low tolerence to BS, I guess :)
30% leaf loss is not resistant on my books.
Olga |
RE: White Rose (landscape) suggestions
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| Olga, as long as they will leaf back out in a week or two, I can handle it. I lived with Bonica for twenty years who would have about the same leaf drop in wet summers, but she always came back so sweetly. I couldn't let her go. |
RE: White Rose (landscape) suggestions
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May I suggest Kronprincessen Viktoria. It meets all of
your criteria. I'd also recommend the floribunda Sartoga.
If you'll give it stand alone room, Sally Holmes would
also work. |
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