I'm looking for a hybrid tea with a lovely Fragrance and whose Blooms are 'Super-Outstanding!' in Beauty. :-) Coloring is optional. Probably should let you know that even though I am in zone 5b, I've found that it's easy to grow most of the HTs I've tried. (Though I've never tried to grow the reportedly 'super-tender' ones.) ;-) Also, disease resistance really isn't much of a factor here because they generally just don't get any BS etc. in my organic, arid and pretty much very hot in the summertime garden. I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder...sooo ALL suggestions would be very much appreciated. Thanks!

Debbie

P.S., Any rose(s) I choose won't be ordered for this year of course, but winters are so loooooooong in this area, I'd love to spend part of it, and autumn, looking through your suggestions. :-p

P.S.S., If you have any pictures of your 'extra-beautful' HTs they would be most welcome.

Thanks again!

I am a Spokanite!, but my beloved brothers and some of my friends live in your beautiful area. :-) Rain?!!...what's that? Just kiddin' of course. We don't often get a lot of rain here during most our rose blooming season. And my microclimate is mostly arid and HOT! for much of that time. So Bella'Roma might be right at homa! here. Sorry about being so silly. :-p lol...and I will be considering Firefighter and Just Joey, though I've heard that Just Joey tends to be on the 'super-tender' list. I've found in protected microclimates that I can stretch the zones some...sooo I'll be thinking about that one as well.

Also, David Austin roses do GREAT here, and I grow some of them and LOVE them. But, I am looking for only HTs for this particular spot.

Thank you, dear! Much appreciated. :-)

Debbie

Michelle

Lol, Chuck, I used to be a valley girl, myself. Have friends and relations over there, and my brilliant, extremely handsome Daddy founded TORQUE-A-MATIC INC there which makes me smile every time I go by it. And I KNOW what you're talking about. Last winter's snow was an amazing record breaker. What a shock to open the front door and see all of that huge amount of snow come cascading in. :-0 Yikes!!! I do grow Papa Meilland, and LOVE him. Thanks for all of your suggestions. It will be fun considering them.

Take good care. :-)

Debbie

Ingrid

I have heard that the Valencia rose is absolutely gorgeous and has wonderful fragrance as well. I too hear that Just Joey is a marvelous rose to have.

If one was a very talented grower like JeffAurora, Lincolns are unmatched in beauty and fragrance and it's like Rose 101---very strong and vigorous/indestructible, LOL! but you have to feed it sea tea/alfalfa tea or it univerally becomes a one-cane wonder.

In gifted hands Lincoln becomes this (from JeffAurora)

In dummy hands, Lincoln becomes one giant cabbage, What in the Heck is That???? kind-of-rose. But at least it's 6" across in bloom size (I joke that it's half a foot big blooms, ha-ha!) But at least with my Gardenville Sea Tea it's got lots of canes! Anyway, I thought it best to show the Beautiful-the Good with the uhhhh-gly "LUMPY" LOL! Mine are first-year roses so I can only hope they will improve, but I think not in a million years for me! LOL! I think only JeffAurora can coax out such incredible beauty.

When I was in search of a beautiful orange blend fragrant rose, several forumers recommended Victor Borge (Michael Crawford).

Here is a photo of this rose (but all online images portray similar consistent beauty as well):

Here is the actual web address.

Victor Borge from HMF

My only reservation would be its hardiness. You would have to decide that for yourself.

As for Valencia, which someone above recommended, yes--BIG blooms and strong fragrance. The downside is that it is very slow re-blooming, but when it actually gets around to re-blooming, the BIG blooms last a long time. Again, you'll have to decide about the hardiness yourself.

Kate

Mr. Lincoln does smell and look wonderful - my daughter was so inspired by it as opposed to any of my others that she wrote it a poem; however, i keep having problems with pm on it and it's my only rose with that issue

Sorry, Ken, but I have to completely disagree with you OWWWWW! Artificially loaded nitrogen that is 12-6-8 combined with additional organics is way too high!!!! Remember when people use those artificial fertilizers, they actually unbalance the soil. It makes the soil less hospitable to earthworms and actually increases insect populations like thrips and other garden pests which love high impact nitrogen soil.

I truly believe that organics fertilizers do produce BEAUTIFUL AND CONSISTENT BLOOMS, in fact I am willing to bet that my organic Gardenville outbeats any artificial fertilizer. It only has a 2.1-3.3-2.2 ratio but it always creates bursts of healthy foliage and blooms and does not wreak havoc with the soil.

Hybrid tea roses just vary in their shape. Not all hybrid teas are created equal. Some hybrids will produce superior form. Fragrant Cloud is well known for being big, showy, but not classical. My local nursery always uses the artificial fertilizers to feed their roses because they want to force out the big blooms but their Fragrant Cloud looks mushier and their Chicago Peace looks very pouffy like a giant petticoat of lively rainbow candy instead of the classical spiraling form.

My hybrid tea roses are fed the exact same Gardenville Sea Tea and the ones that are famous for classical sculpted beauty remain beautiful and sculpted. The only exception is my Lincolns but I am also thinking this has to do with their age and maturity-they've only had only 2 classical spiraling blooms (first-year roses that grew from 9" to 7' tall). I have a beautiful fragrance sport Gemini and it has the most beautiful awesome spiraling forms ever! and so does my Climbing America. I've got tons of spirals from Aromatherapy-very consistent. So again, my feeling is that every HT will vary in the amount of "spiral". Again, same fertilizer-the same consistent prolific blooms, but how classical they get depends on the breed of the rose.

My roses:

And here are those roses which consistently have their pretty but non-classical shapes and therefore they do not! have outstanding beauty.

Again, I think it's important that we really evaluate what the rose looks like normally and what its average appearance should look like. PJP is one rose that is famous for its form and fragrance and it should be kept that way. I absolutely cannot! recommend Fragrant Cloud because in most gardens it does not have that drop-dead gorgeous spiraling form. It is not! an outstanding beauty rose.

Sorry that I took so long to respond, but I've been doing some heavy-duty research. So far I've ordered:

BARBRA STREISAND
DOUBLE DELIGHT
FIREFIGHTER
THE MCCARTNEY ROSE
TYPHOO TEA

...all for spring shipment from Northland Rosarium. Help, this rose addiction is getting the best of me! :-p

Debbie

These are some of the more beautiful and fragrant of all the roses I grow. I would recommend any of them without reservation. Most of these are pretty good roses for disease resistance and winter hardiness as well.
Just my two cents...
John

Debbie