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Recommend a rose in between WS2000 and South Africa
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Posted by
veryzer 5a IL (
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Sat, Oct 15, 11 at 19:45
| I have very limited garden space so the choice is important to me. I have room for two plants which I'd prefer to be the same variety. I suppose I painted myself into a corner but what color/rose would work well between the magenta of WS2000 and the gold of South Africa? In terms of bush form and flower shape I know I've already lost. Let your aesthetics do the talking.
Thanks. |
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RE: Recommend a rose in between WS2000 and South Africa
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| How big a bush would the space fit? Climber? Does it need to be a HT? Jackie |
RE: Recommend a rose in between WS2000 and South Africa
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| How about a rose that blends the lovely color of South Africa with the Magenta tones of WS2000? I don't have a specific one in mind but I am sure there are many out there to choose from. I think South Africa is the very best rose I have...most prolific,healthiest and longest lasting. Can't say enough good things about this rose! |
RE: Recommend a rose in between WS2000 and South Africa
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| Jackie, I just looked again and I have a 4 ft. space, not between plantings, but from habit to habit, so I'm guessing I have room for one moderately sized bush. It doesn't need to be an HT at all. Liza, I'm a big fan of SA too. I was also thinking of something that blends the two but can't recall any specific roses. I might have to sift through helpmefind. If I can't find a good one, I guess I might have to go with something that contrasts with both....maybe a cream color? |
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| Between the strong colors of WS2000 and South Africa I would place a lighter blend for contrast (and maybe neutralize the strong colors a bit). I'm not sure what size rose you are looking for, but David Austin has lots of candidates that would do. The colors of Crocus Rose would be terrific in the middle--but maybe the bush is too large. Gentle Hermione (which I am crazy about) might work--but with the whitish outer petals and pastel pink center rather than the pastel yellow/buff/apricot center of the whitish Crocus Rose. Some of his other whitish blends are Windermere or Lichfield Angel or perhaps Charlotte for a bit more color. Maybe even a somewhat contrasting bloom type: Comte de Champagne, for instance. There are any number of Austins that would be appropriate, depending on your criteria for size, disease-resistance, etc. But I'd definitely go for something that has some white in it--otherwise the colors might want to fight with each other if there are too many competing strong colors. Or if you want a very different type flower, consider Elina--supposedly a HT or grandiflora but mine grow more like a shrub. It has large and lovely whitish/creme flowers with a hint of a mellow yellow center. I think that color would look great in that situation. Good luck with your planning. Kate |
RE: Recommend a rose in between WS2000 and South Africa
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| Thanks for the detailed suggestions Kate. |
RE: Recommend a rose in between WS2000 and South Africa
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| I think a pale color would not show either of the other roses to advantage. I would go with something like "Dream Come True" that has both the golden yellow and the ruby red combined in a distinctly different pattern. We are talking warm glowing colors here. |
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| If I were faced with this dilemma (actually I was and took out the yellow rose), I would plant something other than a rose, perhaps a spiky plant with a silvery or bluish tone such as an iris that would contrast with the two roses and therefore create a sort off "bridge" between the two. If your area has only roses that wouldn't work, of course, but I'm a firm believer that roses alone are often boring. Sorry, I probably didn't help much. Perhaps a bushy rose with single or semidouble pink flowers might be an idea. |
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| I'm with Ingrid here...how about a 'Blue Chip' butterfly bush? I have one planted next to my SA and the two colors are fabulous together. Food for thought... |
RE: Recommend a rose in between WS2000 and South Africa
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| I actually have irises in that spot now but they're faring poorly, so I've decided to yank them. Would a butterfly bush be too big for that spot Terry? How long have you had it for? I've heard butterfly bushes can be pretty fickle in our region (I guess it gets just a bit colder here). Regardless, I plan on salting the bed with larkspur which will go very well with either rose, I'd think. Thanks all |
RE: Recommend a rose in between WS2000 and South Africa
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| 4' would be fine...and the beauty is that 'Blue Chip' is an excellent low-growing sprawler...I have about 4 of them tucked in spaces around roses where I need a splash of blue/purple. They bloom all summer/fall and I found they are very winter hardy. Just a haircut in the Spring and they start blooming. Just a hint, though...they are lazy and might take awhile to bud out...so don't be too hasty to yank them if you think they've died. I had one that I thought didn't make it through the Winter but I over-pruned it in the Spring and it took it awhile to bounce back. It was late June/July before it woke up and then it went bonkers and started growing like its siblings to make up for lost time. An added bonus is the beautiful butterflies that will haunt your garden... |
RE: Recommend a rose in between WS2000 and South Africa
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- Posted by alameda 8 - East Texas (My Page) on
Mon, Oct 17, 11 at 22:33
I am wondering how a deep rich red would look - be a foil for the South Africa [which I had and loved....lost it among others in the brutal Texas heat this summer but will try again] as well as add richness with the Wm. Shakespeare. A good one is Valentine, always in bloom. A pink might be interesting......Dorcas, a Buck, comes to mind, mine is always blooming and has a HT form and very tough. And if you want a tropical feel.....try an orange - this would be my choice - it would let both colors pop. There are lots of good oranges - I grow the Buck Iowa Club and I like it alot. There are lots of good orange/orange tones - Livin Easy, Easy Does It, Shreveport....many more I cant think of right now.
Judith |
RE: Recommend a rose in between WS2000 and South Africa
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| Take a good long look at Heart O'Gold. Good color blend. |
RE: Recommend a rose in between WS2000 and South Africa
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| Lots of options. I like your suggestion Terry, but I unfortunately, live in a neighborhood populated with many talented and dedicated rabbits. I just had to get rid of a few smaller bushes because the bunnies decimate them every winter. |
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| I live in a rural area with lots of hungry deer, chipmunk, and wabbits also who seem to have taken up condo living in my gardens. They have ignored the butterfly bushes and roses, but alas, the poor hostas seem to be a salad bar delight. What bushes are your rabbits munching on? |
RE: Recommend a rose in between WS2000 and South Africa
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| They really like my forsythia and lilacs. They eat the rose bushes too, but not as heartily. By the time the hostas come up they've moved on to greener pastures. |
RE: Recommend a rose in between WS2000 and South Africa
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- Posted by seil z6 MI (My Page) on
Sat, Oct 22, 11 at 17:54
| I also think that something very light colored would pale in comparison to those two vivid roses. Dream Come True was a good suggestion. It does hove both of the other colors in it and it isn't so pale that it would be washed out between them. Nice rose too. Other suggestions that I think would be strong enough to hold their own against those two are Granada, Hondo, Hot Romance and my newest one, Dick Clark. I have a lot of roses in these colors, lol! |
RE: Recommend a rose in between WS2000 and South Africa
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| Another vote for orange! Easy Does It or Playtime. |
RE: Recommend a rose in between WS2000 and South Africa
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| Another butterfly bush to consider is Purple Emperor, a small, tidy, and rounded upright plant from Proven Winners. Its blooms are a muted very dark purple that blend well with other colors. They are not bright. I have three of these plants near roses in various beds. I don't think they are bothered by any animals at all. The only problem with BBs is that they need to be pruned to nearly the ground in early spring-late winter for a nicer bush. This means there is an awkward period in spring until they attain full size and begin to bloom around the beginning of summer, depending on your location. Diane |
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