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| Is anyone growing this in the South? How does it do? I'm thinking about getting it, and want feedback before getting it.
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| I wouldn't grow it where mildew was a problem -- it was a low-level mildewer here. The plant wasn't big, but attractive. Interesting ridged foliage. Lovely bloom. Spectacular fragrance. Jeri |
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| Mildew is a common issue with it here (also SoCal, but hotter than where Jeri is) when conditions are right. I love the "Portland" character of Sharifa. This one is a Star plant, still has the tag, and is about as badly RMV infected as any rose I've ever seen. It grows (complete with multiple Huey suckers each year) and flowers pretty well. The blooms stand up to all but the most brutal of the heat and the fragrance is outstanding. It was installed by a landscraper over fifteen years ago and is firmly entrenched with the other Austins in the front terraces. Other than the Huey suckers, it remains about three by three feet there. I enjoy it, but once it dies, it will be replaced by something different. Kim |
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| I hope you get some southern posters. My impression was that it has BS problems in the south--so it might depend on whether or not you want to spray. Kate |
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| Mine was horribly virused. Visitors would exclaim over the rose with "variegated foliage"--it was that bad. Try to get a clean copy if you can. Spectacular fragrance, as Jeri said. |
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| I have 2 own root 1 year old plants from Chamblees. So no virus worries. About 1.5' tall so far and pretty vigorous. They like full sun here. They bloom a lot (10 or so blooms produced per plant). Very healthy, no BS or mildew. I'm in coastal SoCal so I can't say much about Blackspot. I have a few roses that do get it but the Sharifas are clean. I don't spray. Hope you do get some southern posters to respond. According to David Austin; "An exquisite rose of true Old Rose charm. The blooms are shallowly cupped at first and gradually reflex to form a perfect rosette. A most delicate blush pink, fading to almost white on the outer petals; Short, rather upright growth. One of the most beautiful English Roses, but it can be damaged by very hot sun. A distinctive and beautiful fragrance with fruity notes reminiscent of white grapes and mulberry." Does the location you are planting it get exposed to very hot sun? It may need afternoon shade. On Help Me Find a Pennsylvania poster wrote: The Nashville, TN. Rose society lists Sharifa as very disease resistant with the disclaimer that all roses can blackspot. Lee |
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| Everyone, thanks. Maybe someone from the hot, humid South will come along. I asked a couple of weeks ago about Pat Austin, and everyone in a hot climate told me not to get it because it doesn't thrive in the heat, so that one went off my list. I have mostly OGRs and own root roses and don't get a lot of blackspot on most of them. I have Golden Celebration and it does get some, and it's the only grafted rose that I have, but I sure can't say that's the reason it gets BS. It will get late afternoon shade. I like a short growing rose, a lot of mine get to 6' at least! I'm not sure I'd trust that Nashville rose society statement, though. I guess any rose can get BS under the right conditions, but I hardly ever see it. The pics are beautiful. I'll get it from Chamblees or Heritage, and it will be on its own roots. I don't spray, either. |
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| Kim -- It's interesting that you should mention the badly-virused Star plant. After we got rid of the two "paisley" plants of The Dark Lady which we'd bought from Heirloom, we thought to try again. We bought a Star plant of "The Dark Lady," which turned out to be every bit as "paisley" as the Heirloom plants. Ironically, there was no question of keeping THAT plant, either -- because when it bloomed, it turned out to be one of the most glaring-Orange Hybrid Teas I've ever seen -- and rusted, to boot. After that, we bought no further Heirloom plants, but we have also never again purchased a Star plant. Jeri |
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It's been rather disappointing that Star IS Meilland here in the US and the exclusive source of all of their material. I've dealt with their roses for many years and have experienced heavy RMV infection in their budded stock of all types. Of course, not ALL plants of all varieties have shown symptoms, but I can't remember one which I haven't found symptoms on at least a few examples of it. These are both Austin roses. The first three are definitely Sharifa Asma as the tag was still on it.    These leaves are off another Austin, also from Star, but whose name had broken off the tag, leaving only the characteristic dark green plastic with the Star logo. It's apricot, cupped, fragrant, weak and generic enough to be unidentifiable. It's from the mid nineties, or a little earlier. It grows and gives some scented flowers. Another not worth the effort to identify and definitely not to be replaced once it expires. Kim  |
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| That's flat pitiful, Kim. I'm not one to run spooked over virus, and I'm not finicky about the garden but when it is that bad, I flat don't want it here. It looks too bad. GACK! Jeri |
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- Posted by poorbutroserich 7a Nashville (My Page) on Fri, Oct 5, 12 at 21:30
| Im in Nashville. I got a band this spring from Heirloom. It has done well. No disease issues--I don't spray--. It hasn't grown as quickly as the other Austin bands purchased at the same time but the first bloom appeared yesterday and it does have a nice scent. I find when roses are so hyped on fragrance that I'm usually disappointed but ymmv. It's a pretty rose. Likely too young to make predictions. It's own root. Susan |
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- Posted by kittymoonbeam So. CA nearDsnylnd (My Page) on Sun, Oct 7, 12 at 1:44
| Interesting rose. I find it looks best in cool weather and has more petals and better shape because it is larger and opens slower. Heat ruins the flowers but the plant will still make flowers in the heat. Wind is a menace. Mine never has to face rain or humidity. I remember reading that this rose would glow like a light in some peoples gardens. I thought that was ridiculous, and never saw it myself. I moved the plant and now it has an afternoon sun spot against a line of bamboo to protect it from wind. I was thinking the rose wasn't that special and that I had other DAs that were better most of the year. Two days later a group of flowers opened and I saw them across the yard against the dark bamboo late in the day. The sun was just on them and they were shining bright maybe even glowing compared with the other light colored roses nearby. The way the color deepens toward the center seems to have something to do with it. The translucent pale edges light up brightly and the center has a warmth. It sounds kooky but I did see it. It was the most visually captivating group of flowers in a densely planted bed. |
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| You might try posting this question over on the Antiques forum--there are usually a number of southern gardeners posting over there. Kate |
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| Good idea, Kate, thanks. |
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| I have two sharifa asma's from chamblee's, they are gorgeous and healthy. They are own root and I planted them this past march, and they went from 1 gal to about 3 feet high now. I do have them on drip. I planted them with Mary rose, scepter'd isle, and heritage...am so happy with them. But it isn't humid here--just wanted to mention in case it helps. Tamara |
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