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Posted by veilchen 5b southern Maine (My Page) on Sat, Nov 14, 09 at 7:10
| I recently opened up a spot where I can fit one rose as long as it doesn't grow too gangly or wide. The space is adjacent to my herb garden where I previously grew sweet peas on a tuteur (which I moved to a different area). I am open to any enabling, esp. regarding the newer DAs. In the vicinity I already have Tamora, Fair Bianca, Mary Rose, Sharifa Asma, and Winchester Cathedral. |
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- Posted by ocbrian Z9/Orange County, CA (My Page) on
Sat, Nov 14, 09 at 9:10
| I would probably really like to see Ambridge Rose there. Great flower and color, while staying compact. |
RE: Recommend smallish DA for new site?
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| Prospero and Molineux stay small even in California, don't know how hardy they are. There is also a small white one, Mary Margaret? Might be too small next to the others you mentioned, it is smaller than Tamora here. |
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- Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
Sat, Nov 14, 09 at 18:02
| Do you have trouble with blackspot in your area? |
RE: Recommend smallish DA for new site?
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| Harlow Carr is a smaller rose with a beautiful shape and rose-pink color and an old-rose fragrance that is strong any time of the day or year. It's from 2004. |
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| I have Sophy's Rose and Sister Elizabeth, both are small and stay compact. Both are on ownroot and in my area bloom in flushes from early spring through Dec. |
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| Pretty Jessica is small and hardy. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Pretty Jessica
RE: Recommend smallish DA for new site?
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| I do grow Ambridge Rose, Molineaux, and Prospero. Both Harlow Carr and Pretty Jessica could be nice, I have heard Celeste talk about PJ's hardiness. |
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- Posted by alameda 8 - East Texas (My Page) on
Sun, Nov 15, 09 at 11:39
| I have Miss Alice - stays small and covers herself in flushes of pretty light pink blooms - she is next to Sister Elizabeth, which I like alot, but Miss Alice stays smaller and more compact. |
RE: Recommend smallish DA for new site?
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| I of course would recommend Pretty Jessica too....but I also second the nomination for Harlow Carr. Its a medium-size shrub here so its not as compact as PJ but it does grown nice and full, and the best part is that it is winter-hardy here. I don't protect it whatsoever and it comes back each spring with very little dieback. It blooms in nice clusters and the blooms have an old-rose look and fragrance about them. I addition, mine never gets sprayed and stays clean all summer. Celeste Here's Harlow Carr in front of Winchester Cathedral..... 
Pretty Jessica's blooms (one cluster) in late-Sept. no less.... 
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RE: Recommend smallish DA for new site?
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| I was considering Harlow Carr but I was not sure about winter hardiness. Now that that has been cleared up, I will put it on my list for next spring. |
RE: Recommend smallish DA for new site?
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| Ooh, I think Harlow Carr it is! Disease resistance, hardiness, strong fragrance, can't wait! |
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| Celeste, thank you for your lovely picture of Harlow Carr. Mine is smaller and I hope will grow up to look just like yours, although it's not one of David Austin's recommendations for a hot, dry climate. I really adore the fragrance and the way it could easily be mistaken for a "genuine" old rose. Ingrid |
RE: Recommend smallish DA for new site?
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| Does either The Prince or Carding Mill do well in your area? The Prince does not get overly large, and Carding Mill did not show any surprise octopus canes for me last summer. Happy Child also doesn't seem to get over large either. Does it do well up there? |
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| I've grown Ambridge Rose, while it is lovely in the spring, it's pretty much a BS magnet the rest of the year. If BS is an issue in your area i would not recommend it. I've had good experience with Fair Bianca, Mary Rose, and Winchester Cathedral. If you can't do any better, then maybe another Tamora would be best. |
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| The roses forum gave Fair Bianca the gang gong. Jude the Obscure doesn't get very big in zone 5a. |
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| Thanks everyone! I am such an Austin addict that I have all of the above-mentioned DAs already growing in my garden, except for Carding Mill (which was also on my short list to order, I am a sucker for the apricots), and Happy Child. I am going to go with Harlow Carr because it does sound more compact and I like the disease-resistance touted for it. BS is an issue here but probably less so than for some in the south. If I spray 1-2 x monthly I can keep it at bay. |
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| I think you need a second Tamora. 
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RE: Recommend smallish DA for new site?
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| Harry, I already have a 2nd Tamora! A third may be overkill. I don't have 3 of any one rose, come to think. So many Austins, so little garden space. Sigh. |
RE: Recommend smallish DA for new site?
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| Lilian Austin, small with big flowers. It grows low in full sun. I have no problem with it in CA. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Lilian Austin
RE:Lilian Austin
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| Lilian Austin was a pretty little rose, but, for me, another BS magnet. When she came down with RRD I got rid of her. I hate to be a nay-sayer, it's just BS on the east coast can be a real issue, but there again, Maine may be different. |
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| I have two of the newer Austins this year that I am impressed with. My favorite new Austin is Munstead Woods, which is a nice crimson/red and fragrant. I think it is even better than William Shakespeare 2000, which was my favorite red. The other new one I like is Darcey Bussell, though that one seems to have more of a problem with blackspot than Munstead or Willy. |
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