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Climber Suggestions

sara_ann-z6bok
10 years ago

I have told myself I don't need two red climbers, but am rethinking that idea, because now I have Dublin Bay and I love it for the most part, its only fault that I can tell, is lack of fragrance and I would love to have a fragrant red climber, I am considering Don Juan. Seems like a lot of you like it. I don't want to get rid of my DB, but would consider adding Don Juan if I thought it would do well for me. Would love to know what some of you think and I would also like some suggestions on a good yellow climber. I used to have Golden Showers, but wasn't that impressed.

Comments (22)

  • seil zone 6b MI
    10 years ago

    Don Juan should be a beauty for you. If you like singles Altissimo is gorgeous and supposed to smell like cloves. My Dublin Bay is still just a rooted cutting but I have high hopes for it. I loved the one I had until I accidentally killed it. A learning curve thing, lol! Sorry I don't have any ideas on a yellow one.

  • AquaEyes 7a NJ
    10 years ago

    Mine hasn't bloomed yet, instead focusing on growing (it came as an own-root band this past Spring), but I'd recommend giving 'Orfeo' a try if you want a fragrant red climber. I got mine from Rogue Valley Roses. Since mine hasn't bloomed, the pics I have of it will show only the growth it has achieved in the just-over six months I've had it.

    :-)

    ~Christopher

    Arrived April 25, 2013....repotted into 2-gal container
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    June 13, 2013....
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    July 3, 2013
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    August 10, 2013 -- just planted, its two main canes trained to "hug" the trunk and eventually meet on the other side.
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    August 25, 2013...'Orfeo' on the trunk:
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    Some time in September....laterals further tied against the trunk
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    A few weeks ago, after mulching all the beds. You can't see 'Orfeo' very well here, but it gives perspective on where it fits in relation to the rest of the bed. It's wrapped on the scalped Callery pear, with most of the new growth facing the deck (so next year's flowers can be seen from there).

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    Here is a link that might be useful: 'Orfeo' at HelpMeFind

  • dublinbay z6 (KS)
    10 years ago

    Two Austin yellows you might consider: either Teasing Georgia or The Pilgrim. The Pilgrim is a pale yellow with whitish edges. Teasing Georgia has some apricot highlights in it.

    Kate

  • Lynn-in-TX-Z8b- Austin Area/Hill Country
    10 years ago

    I love,love,love Don Juan. I like the fragrance, it is bullet proof, and almost always has blooms. It had the audacity to put out close to 3" blooms here in August. The aphids and spider mites do not even seem to attack it much.

    Lynn

  • ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
    10 years ago

    Casino is a beautiful yellow climber that seems to be much underrated. The blooms are a beautiful, large and lemon yellow in color. I don't know how it will do in your climate but for me it was disease-free.

    Ingrid

  • sara_ann-z6bok
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Thank you, some good suggestions here. Christopher, looks like you have really worked hard, I'm sure it is going to look beautiful, hope to see pictures. Seil, I have never grown a single petaled rose, but I have admired Altissimo, it's lovely. I do think I really want to try Don Juan. Ingrid - Casino is a really good suggestion for a yellow climber, lovely rose. Teasing Georgia and The Pilgrim are both lovely, The Pilgrim looks more like the shade of yellow I'm wanting. It won't be an easy decision.

  • susan4952
    10 years ago

    And if you don't want a huge monster, golden celebration does very well.

  • susan4952
    10 years ago

    And I forgot, Marechal Niel.

  • AquaEyes 7a NJ
    10 years ago

    Susan4952 -- I don't think 'Marechal Niel' would survive in zone 6. I was tempted to try it here where I am (which is either 6b or 7a, depending on which map is used, but I lean toward the latter due to urban heat island effect), but decided it would be too iffy in winter here. I went with 'Jaune Desprez' as my only Tea-Noisette because it was given greater Winter-hardiness than most of the others based on what I read in as many sources I could find. And even then, I'll be tying evergreen branches to its canes trained into a Japanese maple for its first winter, per the recommendation of Stephen Scanniello.

    Sara-Ann -- I posted a bunch of progress pics on the Antiques forum in a few threads:

    Some before and after showing growth so far:
    http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/rosesant/msg0611414417374.html?43

    It's been a busy Summer in my yard...:
    http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/rosesant/msg0914445024222.html?48

    Mulch!!!
    http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/rosesant/msg102101521863.html?33

    And for the entire photo album, with pics beginning last year before I did anything in the yard (and a bunch of "boring" inventory pics when my roses came this year), see the link below and click "View all". They should begin oldest-first.

    :-)

    ~Christopher

  • sara_ann-z6bok
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Susan - You are really tempting me. Golden Celebration is lovely and that Marechal Niel is something! Thanks

  • susan4952
    10 years ago

    Christopher, I push the zone limit successfully all the time. Only ones I can't cajole into surviving zone 5 are PJP 2 and Just Joey. Your plan sounds amazing! And Sara, GC even looks beautiful in a vase.

  • AquaEyes 7a NJ
    10 years ago

    Well, if you try 'Marechal Niel', good luck. It's not an easy rose on its own roots (which is how you'll most easily find it) even where it grows without hard winters. The flowers do make it a tempting thing to try, however.

    Oh, and thanks for the compliments on my garden-to-be! I'm doing it in stages, and roses were the first stage. Since they all came as own-root bands, I wanted them to have an extra year to get established before I start putting in companion perennials, clematis and self-seeding annuals. Shopping for the next stage will keep me occupied over the Winter.

    :-)

    ~Christopher

    This post was edited by AquaEyes on Thu, Nov 7, 13 at 22:08

  • susan4952
    10 years ago

    Christopher, lemon spice is one of my faves. Not a prolific bloomer but when she does, WATCH out!

  • AquaEyes 7a NJ
    10 years ago

    Yes, it's been one of my favorites to sniff, even if I've gotten the chance only a few times. As with the few other HTs I got, it's a bit slow to get growing, and I can count on one hand the number of flowers it gave me in its first year. This was its first:

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    Talking about rose fragrances will turn this into another thread, but I'll have to say that I'm very happy with the variety of scents I've gotten to sniff already this year. A few of the once-blooming OGRs each shared a flower or two with me, and some of those scents just don't seem to exist among the moderns -- sweet face-powder on 'Nouveau Monde', the herbal Gallicas, the sharp and spicy Damasks (the Damask scent found in some of my HTs is a little different, with a sweet-lemon undertone). And if you've never experienced the strong clove scent of 'Rosa moschata' or related roses, I highly recommend you find a way to do so. I greatly look forward to experiencing them next Spring.

    :-)

    ~Christopher

  • susan4952
    10 years ago

    Yum!
    Don't forget to share pics!

  • kingcobbtx7b
    10 years ago

    And for a sense of scale to how big it can get, here is one of my favorite pictures of it from "The Rose"

  • dublinbay z6 (KS)
    10 years ago

    Oh, gasp--I'm in love!!!!!

    Kate

  • sara_ann-z6bok
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    KingCobb - I'm with Kate, BEAUTIFUL!, thanks!

  • ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
    10 years ago

    Cl. Lady Hillingdon has always been one of my favorites but I wasn't certain it would prosper in zone 6. I loved the one I had in a former garden and am nursing along one here that's been transplanted and then foolishly had too many branches and leaves taken off. Do we ever learn? Fortunately it's putting out new growth now, since this rose is not easy to find in the western US.

    Gorgeous picture, KingCobb; I suspect that's in England.

    Ingrid

  • kingcobbtx7b
    10 years ago

    Oh yeah, that is the only problem with the book "The Rose" it is completely based off of roses that grow well in England and the big rose picture is out of that book.

    I am not certain on Climate zones in England compared to the U.S., but I would imagine if it grows well in England it would do fine in Zone 6.

  • AquaEyes 7a NJ
    10 years ago

    The thing about much of England is that while it doesn't get as hot as does much of the US in Summer, it also doesn't get as cold in Winter. From what I remember offhand, much of it is USDA zone 8 (give or take), so while things might not grow as vigorously in their cooler Summers, they also won't be as hard-hit in their milder Winters. Then again, as I remember from Plant Delights' happy zone-pushing, it's possible that when a plant has a more intense growing season, it can better handle a cold dormant season. And in any case, 'Lady Hillingdon' is one of the hardier Teas.

    :-)

    ~Christopher