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| Is there such a thing? Or at least less thorns than the average plant. I have 3 bushes that were put in a year ago, grew to 4'-5' and never bloomed. I cut them back in the summer(i know, a big no no!)thinking that might encourage blooms, but didn't. I recently did the fall pruning, but am thinking of just digging them out since I didn't get the results I was expecting. The branches have doubled in thickness, as well as the thorns. It's a pink rose, with a fair amount of fragrance, but I want a cutting Rose, that won't cut me! If it were a climber variety, all the better. I'm wanting to place them on a brick wall between 4 windows. TIA |
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| Well, the obvious is Zepherine Drouhin - a lovely rose but prone to powdery mildew. If you can ensure a good diet and sufficient ventilation (ie. not growing against a masonry wall where the roots suffer from dryness and the air cannot move freely through the foliage), this is a beautiful classic rose, hardy to z6/7 |
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| Where do you live? It would help to know the zone you're in before recommending roses. I'm just wondering if you have once-blooming old garden roses that only bloom on old wood. If you cut that wood off you won't get any flowers. Melissa |
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| If you want a "cutting rose" without thorns, you may like 'Georg Arends'. It's considered a Hybrid Perpetual, but genetically it's more like an early Hybrid Tea. Only problem is that it's probably hard to find. I got mine as a band this year and it has gorgeous big pink fragrant flowers, and totally thornless stems. There are a few tiny hooks under the leaflets, but you probably won't notice them unless you look for them. There are also some thornless Hybrid Teas out there, if you want something a little more modern. If you do an advanced search on HelpMeFind for "thornless" (look for it under "Habit"), you'll come up with a lot of possibilities (not all are Hybrid Teas). You can also see if nursery websites allow for an advanced search. Rogue Valley Roses does. :-) ~Christopher 'Georg Arends' at HelpMeFind |
Here is a link that might be useful: Advanced Search at HelpMeFind
This post was edited by AquaEyes on Mon, Dec 2, 13 at 13:21
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| You could try the Austin rose, Brother Cadfael, with gorgeous pink blooms that have a wonderful scent. This rose can get as big as a climber, but doesn't need support. Drawbacks: will not last as long in a vase, nor have as long a stem as a many hybrid tea roses. Rebloom is just ok, though in fall it can put out quite a few blooms in a good year. Here's a pic. Diane |
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- Posted by kittymoonbeam 10 (My Page) on Sat, Nov 30, 13 at 21:00
| Heritage has few thorns but is not a climber. |
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- Posted by patty_cakes (My Page) on Sun, Dec 1, 13 at 13:50
| Thank you so much everyone! I though maybe I had done something while planting. I live in Austin, zone 8, and even though it gets extremely hot, the bushes never drooped, and do get afternoon sun for several hours. The bush itself looks healthy, no black mold, white powdery 'stuff', or anything out of the ordinary. Melissa, I don't know what you mean by "once blooming old garden Roses"~are they plants that come from established Rose bushes? Would it hbe stated on the label? Christopher, aren't 'teas' a smaller Rose? It doesn't have to be what you call modern, as I prefer heirloom plants, such as Hollyhocks. However, if thorns are involved, I'll have to pass. I know my tetanus shot is current, but a band aid covered hand doesn't make a fashion statement. hahaha I will visit the site you provided to get more info. Nana, what a beauty, exactly what I'm looking for! Actually, that's pretty much what the 3 I purchased looked like on the attached description card. It could be a climber, but would need support since it falls forward, or maybe that's because of the heavy branches. Makes me wonder, and unfortunately I can't remember the name! Kitty, I'll look that one up also. Thanks everyone. The search is on! ;o) |
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| I'm not sure how well it functions as a cut flower (it is NOT a "long-stemmed" rose, for instance), but Austin's Mortimer Sackler is a modest sized climber with few thorns. It is also fragrant and bs-resistant. Are thorns really that much of a problem? Admittedly, roses like Home Run or Elina or Austin's Gertrude Jekyll are well-armed with dangerous spear-like thorns, but most roses (in my garden anyway) are only moderately thorny and not a big hazard for me. Are you trying to avoid those that are brutally thorned or even roses with average, moderate thorns? Kate |
Here is a link that might be useful: Mortimer Sackler at HMF
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| Keep in mind those roses that will have prickles (thorns) down lower on the plant but the cutting stems that have few or no prickles. There are quite a few of those. Again though it matters where you garden--performance varies widely due to climate. |
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| Patty, many of the old garden roses are referred to as once-bloomers because they have only one flush of flowers per year, usually in spring or early summer. Roses like gallicas, damasks, and albas. The rest of the year they don't bloom. They are often extremely fragrant, with damasks in particular being famous for fragrance (and still grown for perfume-making). There are some exceptions that do rebloom, as in they will have more than one flush of flowers in the year. Most modern roses, such as hybrid teas are repeat bloomers. With once-blooming just think of a cherry tree--it has one bloom cycle each year and then sets fruit afterwards. Below is a link with a description of some of the old garden roses. It's a little out of date but much of the info is still valid. As to the label, well they aren't standardized.;) Usually they do give the name of the rose but they may or may not state the class or whether the rose reblooms (in the same year). Many of the roses sold in big box stores particularly are modern roses, such as hybrid teas or floribundas, which repeat flower, so most people assume any rose they buy will rebloom. Even if you no longer have the label, you might be able to ask the store where you bought the roses what varieties they carried. Maybe they'll know.;) Or you can also try posting some pictures here of the overall plants, with some closeups of the leaves and the canes. Melissa |
Here is a link that might be useful: An old garden rose primer.
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