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| Ok. What I understand about roses: they will not grow in deep shade some will do OK in dappled shade but vegetate at the expense of blooms roses in shadier spots are more susceptible to disease BUT-- if my peonies and iris bloom in a certain location is that a good indicator that location is sunny enough for a rose? or am I just dreaming... *sigh* susan |
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| I doubt it. Maybe you could get some trees "limbed up" to lighten the shade. It is relatively cheap and doesn't spoil the form of the trees. |
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| As we can't successfully grow peonies here, I can't comment on them, but iris require far less sun quality to flower here than virtually any rose, including Iceberg and other "hybrid musk" and hybrid multiflora types. Kim |
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| Since I've always planted iris and peonies in sunny places, I would have to say yes--good spot also for roses. They can all take some passing shade as long as they get a good dose of sun at some point--about 6 hours minimum (out of a 12-hour day). My guess is that like roses, iris and peonies in less sun might not bloom as strongly and steadily as those same plants in 6-10 hours of sunlight each day. But maybe some gardeners do plant iris and peonies in the shade and do fine. I never met them myself. Here's the best way to check. Go and look at the selected spot around 8 or 9 in the morning. How much sun does it get? Check again around 12 or 1 o'clock. Note how much sun that spot gets. Check again around 4 o'clock--record how much sun that spot gets. That should give you a rough idea how many hours of sun that spot may get--though to be more exact, you would have to check in the springtime, mid-summer, and late summer or fall (don't worry about winter). If you don't have enough time to try all those, then keep in mind that the sun casts LOOOONG shadows (to the north) in springtime and very little in mid-summer. For example, my neighbor's tall oak tree across the alley on the south side of my yard shades my back garden for several hours mid-day in the spring time, but as summer advances, that shadow almost completely disappears. It returns as autumn returns. Hope that helps. Kate |
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| Depends on the rose. I have a very long rose bed that I grow daylilies, iris, and roses together in. One end gets less sun because it has a very large oak tree that shades it. I have found that certain roses, such as 'Gene Boerner', a hybrid tea, don't mind being planted where they get less sun. 'Taboo' is another one that needs protection from harsh direct sun and benefits from being in a shadier location. |
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- Posted by poorbutroserich nashville (My Page) on Mon, Nov 26, 12 at 19:43
| Thanks! You all always come through with wisdom and experience. I appreciate it. Susan |
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| In my climate irises seem to be able to bloom in more shade than my roses. There are exceptions, however. Mutabilis is covered with blooms right now and is actually behind the iris and hence in more shade. However, since it's over 6 feet tall the upper parts of it still get sun long after the iris is in shade. |
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