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Questions about training roses to wire

Posted by graywings 7MD (My Page) on
Tue, Nov 13, 12 at 17:33

I did several Gardenweb searches looking for information on this. I'm sure this has been discussed, but I can't find the threads.

I have a 42 inch high picket fence and want to run a series of wires along it and attach the rose canes to the wire, running for 11 feet. The rose bushes have been there for many years. I don't know anything about them.

My plan is this, going from left to right:
Screw eye (set in 1.5 inches) - Turnbuckle - wire or cable with cable clamp on each end - Screw eye.

Here are my questions:

Is this a good thing to do?

What type of wire? My Home Depot expert says galvanized wire will last about 3 years. Stanless steel? Plastic coated?

What gauge of wire? 1/16 or heavier?

Do I need an additional screw eye in the middle of the 11 feet run?

Is now a good time to do this and attach the canes, while temps are in the low 50s?

Am I missing something?


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RE: Questions about training roses to wire

Rather than wire or (shudder) green plastic tape, I use Gardman Chainlock. Jeri turned me on to it when I saw the climbers tied with it at the Stagecoach Inn pruning demo.

Infinitely adjustable in seconds and infinitely reusable. Also makes a great reusable wrap around bushes when transplanting. Unlike green tape and wire, you can store small pieces neatly in a canister of some sort, no straightening required. I hang longer pieces on a hook.

I don't think the price is bad ($21 for 100') when you consider the adjustability and reusability compared to green tape or wire. As you say, wire goes away and plastic gets brittle so reuse is limited. Plus, it won't cut into the canes like wire can, at least under normal stresses, not 100 year storms ;-) I won't go back!

Here is a link that might be useful: Gardman C247 1/2-Inch X 100-Foot Chainlock


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RE: Questions about training roses to wire

Can the chainlock be pulled taut horizontally across 11 feet? I don't want to attach the rosebushes to the fence.


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RE: Questions about training roses to wire

You know, I wouldn't use any plastic for that much length as it will ease with time. I was suggesting it for tying the roses in place.

I've been using it on a pillar with Perennial Blue and it's working great. I'm attaching the canes at the circular supports with the chainlock. PB is a great one for my first pillar as it's pretty supple so if I forget to feed it up, it's been easy to feed through (and has grown like a week, thanks Kim!).

I originally used the chainlock with great success tying climbers to our chainlink fence (cl. Blaze inherited with the house). I can't tell you how much I enjoy the ease of being able to readjust canes as needed compared to the green tape which sags and its a chore to undo the knots.

Kerin


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RE: Questions about training roses to wire

  • Posted by elks US5 Can6 (My Page) on
    Wed, Nov 14, 12 at 5:40

I have had New Dawn on my back wall for 10 years supported by clothes line, plastic-covered, twist-stranded wire. I've never replaced a 25'length of it. It disappears against the brick wall from a short distance away.

Steve


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RE: Questions about training roses to wire

Kerin, could you explain more about how this works--especially with a pillar? Thanks
Susan


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RE: Questions about training roses to wire

I guess the best way to to explain it, is that I use the chainlock to *tie* and attach the canes to the supporting structure, e.g. my pillar or the chain link fence. I don't use the chainlock as a supporting structure. Does that describe it ok?

If you want/need a *tight* tie-down, it may not be for you as it is stiffer than green tape; for my purposes, I don't do that.


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RE: Questions about training roses to wire

Yes, Thanks!


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