Roses at the NYBG's Peggy Rockefeller Rose Garden

It would be interesting to see pictures of the actual garden rather than just bloom close-ups. Haven't heard if they hired Peter's replacement after his retirement. Under city management, it could suffer. Let's hope not.

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Posted by kittymoonbeam 10 (My Page) on
Mon, Nov 11, 13 at 18:49

Thank you for sharing this. I hope I get to see it in person one day.

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Posted by surya55 7a ny (My Page) on
Thu, Nov 14, 13 at 21:13

Well, I have to say that I've visited the NYBG rose garden and was not impressed one bit. There was a time when you walked up to the garden and you could smell the fragrance a distance way- not so anymore. They changed over a ton of roses and I'm afraid, not for the better. The only interesting ones left are the DA's, Francis Meilland and a handful of others, that's about it.

A longtime member

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Posted by sandandsun 9a FL (My Page) on
Thu, Nov 14, 13 at 22:02

Don't feel bad. I was never impressed before they made the changes. The roses never rivaled the peonies, IMHO, for instance.

One reason that I felt that way might have been that the rose garden was just that - only roses, while the peonies were planted relatively near other plants and so there was more a sense of a garden.

As contradictory as it sounds, a rose garden is not a garden. It is a monoculture or "a collection" at best.

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Posted by prairiemoon2 zone 6a/MA (My Page) on
Fri, Nov 15, 13 at 6:40

surya55, so sorry to hear that you've been disappointed with the changes. I've never been to the NYBG and I'm hoping to go next year. Actually, when I was looking around at the NYBG blog, I was really jealous of all you New Yorkers, who can visit there any time and take advantage of some of their programs.

I am sure I would feel disappointed to find such a change. I guess I have to look at it more long term. The rose industry has had to correct a series of wrong turns that were made and 'right the ship' so to speak. I see this as an adjustment period. Now that so many breeders are working on better roses that don't require chemicals, I think we will see more and more great roses with the fragrance you are looking for, eventually. And just think how much healthier everyone will be and especially the workers who would have had to use the chemicals.

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Posted by sandandsun (My Page) on
Fri, Nov 15, 13 at 20:13

Justs so's we knows how ugly the rose garden is, I thought I should link to at least one photo of it. This one is from June of 2013:

Here is a link that might be useful: One view of the NYBG Rose Garden

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Posted by sandandsun 9a FL (My Page) on
Sat, Nov 16, 13 at 20:35

This photo, from June 2011 - about a year after the new installation, shows part of the layout of the rose garden.

Here is a link that might be useful: Aerial

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Posted by sandandsun 9a FL (My Page) on
Fri, Sep 12, 14 at 10:08

The photo collection on HelpMeFind:

Here is a link that might be useful: The Peggy Rockefeller Rose Garden

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Posted by dublinbay z6 KS (My Page) on
Fri, Sep 12, 14 at 10:18

I have to admit--there is something a bit boring about this garden. Not sure why.

Kate

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Posted by jasminerose4u 8b (My Page) on
Sun, Sep 14, 14 at 1:28

It looks like they have some beautiful roses.

Here is a link that might be useful: Tour of Peggy Rockefeller Rose Garden

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Posted by farmerduck (My Page) on
Sun, Sep 14, 14 at 15:35

What is appealing depends on the audience. For an experienced rosarian who is well versed in the rare and exotic, their selection might be bland. But for a visitor like me, who wants to get a sense of what roses generally do well in a non-chemical intensive way and in an ordinary home garden, the Rockefeller garden serves its key mission well (i.e., educating the general public). Yes, a whole bed of Summer Memories (as they are doing now) might not that exciting, but it does serve its purpose well. The garden is not shy about making clear where t stands in terms of rose selection. One sign sings praises for disease resistant roses, and guess whose name goes first among the breeders that got honorable mentions? Yes, Mr. Radler of the Knockout fame.

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Posted by jerijen Sunset Z24 (My Page) on
Sun, Sep 14, 14 at 15:55

But remember -- again -- that "Disease Resistant" is relative.

Those knockout roses are considered "disease resistant," because they appear to be resistant to most types of blackspot.

In my part of Southern California, where blackspot is a very rare visitor -- they mildew.

So one area's disease-resistant rose is another area's fungus-ridden disaster.

Jeri

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