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Can Cardinal Hume take the heat?
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stross z9 N.O. LA (
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Wed, Dec 28, 11 at 0:44
| While visiting the Tyler Municipal Rose Garden in October, I was struck by the shrub rose Cardinal Hume. Loved the bloom form, the fact that they were covered in blooms, as well as their dark burgundy color! I'm in San Antonio, and wonder how the color would hold up in the hot, dry summers here. Anybody grow CH in a hot climate? How does he do? Any other roses of that deep burgundy or deep mauve that can hold up in the heat? Preferably a small to medium-sized shrub/bush. |
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RE: Can Cardinal Hume take the heat?
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| He might do pretty well for you if San Antonio is the dry part of Texas. He didn't like hot, humid Florida and got black spot. I was very said to say goodbye to him because his blooms really were beautiful in color and form. Don't know about 110 degrees though - thankfully. Sherry |
Here is a link that might be useful: If only sweat were irrigation...
RE: Can Cardinal Hume take the heat?
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| I imported Cardinal Hume from the Harkness Nursery in Britain in 1984 and grew it in Granada Hills, CA from 84-89 and in Newhall, CA from 89-2006. The plant did splendidly in both climates where summer temps could spike to triple digits. In the years it grew in Newhall, it experienced a hundred degree temperature variance between the winter low of 15 and highest summer spike of 115. July through September is usually in the nineties to low hundreds many years. The plant grew very large, flowered heavily and remained totally clean due to the aridity. The flower color is dark enough that in brilliant sun and high heat, the petals will fry easily. I loved that rose from the first catalog photo I saw of it and I love it still. One of its greatest attributes to me is the scent. To me, it smells just like the candy, Red Hots, taste. I raised a poly type seedling from Cardinal Hume that Sequoia Nursery introduced called Purple Buttons. It has the same flower color and scent, only in a much smaller plant. A link to it on HMF is below. You could also try International Herald Tribune, a very deep violet poly type shrub. There are also violet polys such as Baby Faurax, Werner von Blom and Lauren. Louis Lens raised some hybrid multifloras in those colors such as Violet Hood, Sibelius, Verdi, Rosy Purple and Jet Flame. If black spot is an issue where you want to grow it, be prepared to spray Hume. You'll find the plants have little issues with the temperatures. It's the depth of the petal colors which will cause them to fry in high heat. Kim |
Here is a link that might be useful: Purple Buttons
RE: Can Cardinal Hume take the heat?
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- Posted by stross z8 San Antonio (My Page) on
Wed, Dec 28, 11 at 20:23
| Thanks for the responses. I appreciate the info on Purple Buttons, Kim. I do have a smaller size shrub/bush in mind, and if the Cardinal gets big, it wouldn't work for what I have in mind. The combination of buff yellow and deep burgundy appeals to me, so I was looking for a low growing burgundy to plant around Jude the Obscure to see how that combo looks with roses! I'll also look into those others that you mention. Thanks again! |
RE: Can Cardinal Hume take the heat?
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| We live in Northwest Georgia and have two Cardinal Hume Bushes. They are 12 years old and thriving. We have had a pretty bad drought the past few years so they get regular watering, keeping them cut back to about 4 1/2' tall & as wide around as a hug :) They bloom from early April til late Nov. providing nonstop blooms for Hummingbirds & butterflies galore! Our temps in the summer can reach over 100+ with maching humidity. Only sad thing is we can't find them to buy more. |
RE: Can Cardinal Hume take the heat?
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| Not being able to find Cardinal Hume to buy shouldn't be an issue. The thing roots like a weed and grows splendidly own root. It even makes a very good root stock for budding other roses to. I've done both. If you've rooted roses before, do what worked well for you where you are with Hume. He'll root, grow and flower just as amazingly as the budded plants. Kim |
RE: Can Cardinal Hume take the heat?
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| It gets hot here though not as hot as TX. My plant is getting big but I like it a lot and find it is worth the space. The bloom form and color go well with Austins. It is a great rebloomer and where I have it the blooms don't fry. It gets a little afternoon shade. I do spray, but don't find that it is particularly bs prone here. |
RE: Can Cardinal Hume take the heat?
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- Posted by stross z8, San Antonio (My Page) on
Wed, Feb 29, 12 at 22:17
| Thanks for the additional responses everyone. All very helpful! |
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