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| Ha. Love this subject line. Hello to everyone. I will be receiving my first bareroots this year. I know I need to pot bands and move them up until they are ready for in ground planting. Do I do the same with bareroot grafted roses? Should I pot them up first or put them in the ground? Is one method preferable over the other? Thanks! Susan |
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- Posted by jacqueline3 9CA (My Page) on Thu, Dec 27, 12 at 16:34
| Everything I have read or heard of in 30 years says to plant the bareroot grafted roses right into the ground, assuming it is not frozen where you live. If it is too cold, I guess you could pot them up and store them in a garage or other shelter until Spring, and then plant them then. The reason bands need to be potted up is that they are so tiny, and need to get much bigger before they can go into the ground. The bareroot grafted roses are much much bigger than the band ones already, and are big enough to plant. Jackie |
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| Did you order for planting appropriate time in your zone? Always preferable to plant where they will be. Less potential to disrupt root system. When gound is workable, plant and hill up around union until spring . |
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- Posted by mad_gallica Z5 Eastern NY (My Page) on Thu, Dec 27, 12 at 19:31
| Remember, bareroots aren't really planted in spring, but late winter. Ground should be thawed, and not sopping wet, but there should still be cold weather in the forecast. |
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- Posted by sandandsun 9a FL (My Page) on Thu, Dec 27, 12 at 23:41
| My method is a hybrid one for bareroots. I soak them at least overnight submerging the roots. I take pots of an appropriate size and fill them two thirds with soil from the planting spot. I then use that pot to create a "mold" in the excavated soil. Into this mold goes an empty pot of the same size (I gots pots, no problem). The remaining one third of the pot is filled with compost and composted manure. This subsequently gets dumped out and mixed together. Then the bareroot goes in, the mix next getting firmed in well, and finally they are watered in thoroughly. As long as (and whenever) the overnight forecast temps are greater than 36 degrees, the pots stay outside. With bareroots, I have them potted for less than a month (usually about 2 1/2 to 3 weeks) and then into their ready made molds. I pot them because it allows me to move them if required for temperature and because I keep a better eye on their moisture needs while they're potted. I know, I'm really good to my new plants - but it's like the stuff they say about children. Or about breakfast. |
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| Bare roots are usually one or two year old roses and can go right into the ground if you wish. Planting time will vary by your zone but a good rule of thumb is when the forsythia bloom in your area in the spring. Yes, it sound like an old wives tale but it does make some sense. For the forsythias to bloom the soil has to have reached a certain temperature and that signals it's time to plant. |
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- Posted by doodles-grower 6b (My Page) on Fri, Dec 28, 12 at 11:27
| mad_gallica, I had never heard of planting bareroots in the late winter are you talkng about own-root bare roots? ANd would that be like Late Feb.-March? I always like to plant my bands where they are going to stay instead of placing them in a pot for some time. This is really interesting and you are in Z5 so it would work for me as well! This would sure be great cause I start to go crazy in the winter wanting to plant something! Do you have good sucess with this method? Always something to learn here! Thanks, d |
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- Posted by mad_gallica Z5 Eastern NY (My Page) on Fri, Dec 28, 12 at 13:04
| 'Late winter' means it isn't really spring yet. A lot of people around here want to plant their bareroots in shirt sleeves, in May. That's waaay to late since the plants don't have time to root in before summer hits. But so long as the brutal winter temperatures are over, and the hole can be dug, I'm not sure there isn't a reason to plant in February. I usually order my bareroots for the end of March. |
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| Oh no, here we go with the great "own root bare root" confusion. One has nothing to do with other. Own root has to do with NO GRAFTING one rose onto a a hardier stock. bare root is just a term for a mature rose that has been taken out if it's soil for shipping economy. |
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- Posted by doodles-grower (My Page) on Fri, Dec 28, 12 at 16:27
| Sorry!!! I am new to roses so I was clarifying. Just wanted to make sure "I" understood, didn't want to upset anyone. Thank you mad_gallica and Seil. |
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| There is a great search feature on this site at the bottom of the page. Sorry, I get cranky pants when I still have 3 months before the fun starts. Happy Rosing. |
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- Posted by sandandsun 9a FL (My Page) on Fri, Dec 28, 12 at 17:24
| About that confusion: The rose world is a changing. More and more folks are realizing that own root is something they might prefer. And nurseries are responding. So much so that I was impressed to see that Regan Nursery is now offering a large selection of bare root "own root" roses. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Regan Nursery
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| My own roots seem to have a different pattern of growth, more spidery and they take much longer to get going. JP offered some a few years ago, also...but they were also shipped as bare root. |
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| Own root and bare root can be confusing terms. One is about growth the other about shipping. Own root has nothing to do with how the rose is prepared for shipping. It has to do with how the plant was grown. A variety that is grown out on it's OWN root system as opposed to one variety of rose being grafted onto the root system of another variety of rose. As to which is better, it's a toss up and depends on your location, needs and preferences. They each have their merits. Bare root refers to how a rose is prepped for shipment. The rose, whether grafted or own root, has been dug up and all the soil has been removed from the roots and then the rose is packaged for shipping. This is as opposed to potted roses which are dug up and planted in soil in pots for shipping. This treatment, of course, raises the price of the shipping because of the added weight of the soil and pot. But, like above, there are pros and cons to both methods and is strictly a matter of your needs and preferences. |
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| I always just put them strait into the ground and haven't had any problems. Last year mine arrived while we had snow on the ground and that was a bit of a pain, but once you get out there digging you'll warm up :) I only have two pots that have grafted bareroot plants in them, and thats only because I ordered them from J&P and Dr. Huey doesn't like East TN soil very much, so I figured I'd giving them a fighting chance and pot them in some potting soil (so far, so good). Plus, they're both HTs and this way its easier for me to winter protect them. Good luck! I'm curious how your plants will do in Nashville, compared to my Knoxville ones... Tammy |
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