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| A few months ago the rose person at the nearby nursery asked me what English roses she should order for their store to carry this Spring. What a golden opportunity ! and what an idiotic response I gave her. It pays to read these posts, as I had not read up and didn't have a dozen off the top of my head. Now I have to beg like a puppy for another chance next year. What would you have told her ? Thanks on behalf of our rose crazed neighborhood. |
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- Posted by gothiclibrarian 5b (My Page) on Sat, Jan 4, 14 at 11:59
| Pretty Jessica. I can never find her locally and have had mail orders for her canceled each spring for 3 years now. I'm starting to feel cursed. |
Here is a link that might be useful: GothicLibrarian.net
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- Posted by damask55linen none (My Page) on Sat, Jan 4, 14 at 12:36
| Yikes that is one gorgeous pink rose. Thank you for the suggestion, I had overlooked pretty Jessica. The web photos are torture ! Over winter I picked my new line up to buy from the Rosarium and watched them one by one get pulled off availability. This is year five now I missed the boat... Who knows, you may stumble upon a free beauty under some construction debris like my friend did, she's just tooo lucky. |
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| I feel totally spoiled by the truly outstanding nursery we have locally with its 15+ file pages of roses available to us this spring. They will have many English roses from the older ones to the newest. Here is my list of suggestions of Austins that I think your nursery should carry--I am growing most of them and think they are all good choices. From older to newer (not exact): Tamora Diane |
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- Posted by Nippstress 5-Nebraska (My Page) on Sat, Jan 4, 14 at 14:59
| For zone 4, you may want to pay more attention to the hardiness of the particular cultivars, though Austins are way hardier than some people presume. The hardiness factor might limit some of your choices of Austin crimson/purple options, though I've found Darcy Bussell and William Shakespeare 2000 to be mostly cane hardy in zone 5 and presumably at least root hardy in zone 4. Among the Austins that are totally cane hardy for me and deserve a look: Teasing Georgia, Carding Mill, Sharifa Asma, Queen of Sweden, The Alnwick Rose, Molineux, Tamora, Abraham Darby, and Eglantyne. But why stop at Austins for the English type? The Meilland Romanticas are likely to be a bit iffy in zone 4, but I suspect the Massad Generosas would be perfectly fine. Versigny, Frances Blaise, or Madame Paule Massad have the English "look". And oh...if you could convince your nursery owner to invest in the Renaissance series by Poulsen (from a cold climate so also hardy), I'd make a beeline for the presently unobtainable Bella Renaissance, and probably Sandra and Maria Renaissance too. Just some ideas to ponder - you didn't really think we'd make your task EASIER to narrow down to a few choices, did you? Cynthia |
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| nanodoll, have you ever thought to mention to the truly outstanding nursery how much profit is to be made in mail order? Maybe just a few hard to find varieties, recommended by your gardenweb friends? |
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- Posted by damask55linen none (My Page) on Sat, Jan 4, 14 at 18:53
| How could narrowing down have been mis-construed as widening up? I'm in deep trouble now. Friends, those roses should not be looked up in one sitting, it is sensory overload. This is rose meltdown. When the neighbors ask what all the zombie groaning was about , I'll have to say "oh, that was just our old dog." He was peacefully napping in a sunny spot when I yelled fiendishly " You're buying your own dog food!" All those striking roses were unbelievably beautiful, I had to look out the window at the crispy brown and yellow sticks in the garden to somewhat return to my senses. My neighbors would hate me if I owned just half of Diane's roses. And if they started with just a few Renaissance at our nursery, they would hate me even more for my hand in their financial ruin. Maybe in mid-summer we will take turns driving old Taz with a dog cart full of rose bouquets for sale to afford our compulsion, and reward him with his top ten choices for dog food and treats. Just don't give him any suggestions to narrow it down... |
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| Here's my list of the dozen Austins your nursery should carry. Since rose diseases tend to plague new rose growers the most, I've gone out of my way to make sure 3/4s of this list are disease-resistant Austins (note: that does not mean they are "immune."). I've also included a couple "classics"--beautiful and fragrant, but not necessarily disease-resistant. I've included a couple climbers, and taller and shorter roses on the list--and hopefully in a variety of colors. The list begins with the more disease-resistant Austins. Last items are the "classics." Princess Anne The list is missing some beauties like Golden Celebration--because it blackspots badly in my region--as do a number of the earlier Austin beauties. Hope that helps. Kate |
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- Posted by damask55linen none (My Page) on Sun, Jan 5, 14 at 10:51
| Thank you all for some beautiful choices I can list for the plant nursery to consider. Having specific names will be of great value to her; i will chart the zone hardiness and pass on additional information in hope this will help them develop their huge landscape nursery into more of a rose buyers destination for these exquisite roses. |
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