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| I've been researching for days and creating my spreadsheet to narrow down my order. Also hunting around in local garden shops so I can get larger plants! =) My three criteria here are So here goes: In the small shrub category (less than 3') Large Shrub Thornless climber for on the deck in a pot - any other ideas? Climber Thank you in advance! x |
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- Posted by kstrong 10 So Cal (kathystrong@gmail.com) on Fri, Jan 3, 14 at 17:15
| I would stay FAR away from Zephirine D. in SoCal. She's a powdery mildew whore, even if you do spray. So, unless you want her distributing mildew spores throughout your garden, ax that one off of your list, and quickly. |
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| I had a Zephrine in Maryland and her scent was unbelievable, she was wonderful in spring and fall but the black spot was bad in that area and she was completely leafless in midsummer.but her blooms and scent were worth it.she just kept coming back. |
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- Posted by damask55linen none (My Page) on Fri, Jan 3, 14 at 19:25
| Hi Stacien, Looks like you have a tough choice to make. I'm trying to narrow down my choices too that started around 400+ favorites. Year by year I thought to try the most intriguing rose that suits my curiosity and budget. September morn is of supreme interest to me for the fragrance and strange petal composition, someday... Well-being sounds like the fragrance is a Chef's dream, although the color looks like it may conflict with any nearby red or pink roses. My mis- matched collection of plants did not produce a very harmonious garden effect last year. This spring I'll add white violas or snapdragons as a divider between color splashes . I also plan to distance the new rose bushes in order that the fragrances don't blend too much, letting each put forth it's pure defined personality. Back to your question, I've read about Reine des Violettes that it is stunning. That word alone pierces like a thorn. Also the fact that my local nursery does not have it makes me want it more. If that's a color you want, grab it! I absolutely hate mail order; for instance Leonardo da Vinci was not at all what I expected when I saw it at the nursery, while the computer photos looked vastly more appealing. Also some descriptions of fragrances were built up on my computer and minds eye, but didn't seems so great to my nose. On faith in what people said, I ordered Evelyn, Alchymist, and Rouge Royale for Spring 2014. It's a bit scary, but I might as well try for something spectacular. It seems everyones favorite is the one they happen to see or have at the moment, so my advice is experience your choice in person if at all possible before you order, if you can find it in someone's yard or at the garden store. |
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| If you want a purple rose that does little fading in the heat and sun, go with Twilight Zone. If you want a purple rose with stronger (and lovely) scent, and are willing to put up with fading, go with Ebb Tide. Diane |
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| I forgot to mention that my Colette climber has been a very fast grower with lovely blooms, but I haven't noticed much scent, and she certainly has thorns. I also wish she would rebloom more, but she's only about a year and half old, so is still is immature. At this point, her good points prevail over the negative ones and I definitely plan to keep her. Check out the thread on climbers at the Huntington near the top in the Rose Gallery to see the Huntington's gorgeous Colette. Diane |
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| Damask - I too was overwhelmed and had a much longer "want" this last year. I indulged in a few and this year, I'm making room for a few more and doing away with some that have attributes I don't value as much as others. I have La Reine which is absolutely fabulous in terms of scent and bloom - I think many would agree and since La Reine deViolettes is often mistaken for it, although will a larger form that can be espaliered or made to climb - I'm almost sure I will adore LRdV. Mind you - my idea of a strong/lovely scent is somewhat narrower than most. For instance, most Austins I find too delicate and plain. I want a smack-me-over-the-head, if I bottled this scent, it would be a complete stunner! Diane - thank you for distinguishing between ET and TZ. My mind has now flopped again. Our summers here don't really get hot - almost never above 85 and that's for a few hours a day because we're by the ocean. We never even use the AC so I think I will go with ET for the lower, floribunda shape and better scent. Colette sounds to me like another rose people say is scented but just won't do for me. |
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| Louise considers a repeat to be one or two "blooms" towards the end of the summer. Sammy |
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| Sammy - I've heard differing reports on Louise's remontant nature. Seems when it's cooler, she seems to do better. What's the summer like in your zone? Not that familiar with OK summers. I feel she may be off the list now though... |
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- Posted by melissa_thefarm NItaly (My Page) on Sat, Jan 4, 14 at 11:44
| For your consideration (I brought this one up in another of your posts): 'Noella Nabonnand', very fragrant, strong color, a good sized climber. I would guess it would have decent repeat bloom, but since I don't water my roses I usually don't get much rebloom even on varieties with a good reputation that way. Will 'Comte de Chambord', 'Rose de Rescht', and 'Reine des Violettes' do well in your climate? You've checked local expertise on these? I like CdC very much, its flowers with great old rose character (very pink, very fragrant) as well as the old rose style of the plant itself, combined with the rebloom, contained size, and overall toughness of the plant. N.B. I just checked what HMF has to say about 'Noella Nabonnand'. I find the rose to be very fragrant (they say moderate fragrance), and while they give a height of 10', my rose is now taller than this. They mention possible confusion in the U.S. between this rose and 'Marie Nabonnand'; my rose is the correct variety. The blooms on my plant have a distinctly purple (as opposed to true red) tint. Good luck! Melissa |
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| Eden is a beauiful rose, but its scent is only slight in my experience. |
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