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Posted by linrose 6b KY (My Page) on Tue, Jan 13, 09 at 18:58
| Hi everyone!
I am trying to grow teas here in the mid-south with mixed results, so far. I probably have lost as many as have survived. In your collective experience, especially mid-south growers, which teas can survive zone 6b well? I do know they are an investment in time as they are reputed to build slowly so any mistakes I can avoid in choosing will help.
I have managed to get Georgetown Tea and Mme. Lombard through two winters and Lady Hillingdon and Marie Van Houtte have survived in pots for two years now. Mlle F. Kruger is still with us as well as Miss Atwood but I think Rhodologue Jules Gravereaux has given up this winter but Mme Jules Gravereaux is still doing OK on an east facing trellis. I lost Devoniensis and the climbing version after the Easter freeze and haven't retried them. Souv. d'un Ami didn't make it either although I really loved it.
I'm fond of this class of roses for many reasons, what can I do to grow them sucessfully? |
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| It sounds to me like you are growing them successfully. If you got most of them through that Easter freeze, I'd say that was very good, because I remember the weatherman in kc saying even the knockouts were knocked out, and many "hardy" roses died in this area. |
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| I'm 6b here in VA and Teas do okay as long as we don't have really hard winters. So far, Mrs Joseph Schwartz has done incredibly well. But I've lost several others. I just bought a vacation house in SC and I'm going to fill it with Teas and Noisettes and keep VA for hardier roses. |
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| Thank you len and cats - I will persevere and hope for the best with my tea choices. I guess it's more or less a crapshoot anyway when you are a zone pusher, or just an ordinary gardener for that matter. catsrose you are lucky to have two places to experiment with roses, sounds like fun! Let us know what you are planting in both locations so we all can compare notes. len, I did lose many plants in the Easter freeze, so many folks around here lost some prized Japanese maples, thankfully my two made it although they lost all of the previous years growth and stuggled through the next season. Canker took its toll later with some roses I thought would make it. Some I cut right back to the ground and gave up for lost, thinking I'd dig up the roots next year when I would replant only to find new canes emerging, particularly on my vigorous roses like Sally Holmes and Buff Beauty. Made me glad I only grow roses on their own roots! So far for this season with the teas, I think I'll only replace Souvenir d'un Ami only because it is so lovely in form and substance and has such a sentimental name. I have a few teas in pots that I'd like to put in the garden anyway so it minimizes my pot village. |
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You should add Bermuda Spice to your Tea collection. It is by far the best Tea in my garden. Prolific bloomer, keeps its clean leaves year round here, and has a nice light tea scent.
-Stephanie |
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| Thanks, I'll check that one out, beautiful color. I've been looking at Mme Antoine Mari as well, it's been recommended here a lot. I see they are both Earthkinds so that's good for me as I don't spray. |
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| As Georgetown Tea matures, you will just love it. I'm totally smitten by teas. Carla |
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| I'm thinking about trying Duchesse de Brabant in another couple of years, as I've heard it is relatively hardy for a tea (and an earthkind rose). |
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| My Duchesse de Brabant is a real trouper--she's pulled through two summers of drought and has shrugged off cane canker and still blooms and smells heavenly. She's definitely one for us zone-pushers. I've just put Devoniensis under a large plastic storage container due to our lows tonight. I was horrified to find Paul Barden recommending it for the greenhouse--I thought she was safe up to zone 6! When spring comes, I think I'm going to move her closer to the (south-facing brick) house. |
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hello linrose,
teas are really doing well in my climate. with some friends of mine gardening in lesser comfortable and even colder zones, i agree that generally teas are more suffering from waterlogging than from frost. best,
kai-eric |
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| I think Duchesse de Brabant is a tough rose. I've been growing it in the ground for a few years, with mixed results, but have been pleasantly surprised at its resilience. Now if my two Duchesses can survive this cold snap, that really will be something... it will be interesting to see how they look in the spring, if anything is left. |
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| Krista, How cold has it gotten and your Duchesse pulled through. Woke up this morning and it was -3. How far does it get knocked back in your climate? Do you protect at all? Thanks eric |
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| Eric, I know what you mean about the cold... It was -10 this morning, and I suspect colder last night. Every winter the cold snaps pass through and it can get below 0. Duchesse dies back to the ground. I grow it as a small bedding rose, with the Hybrid Teas, and they reach 18-24 inches in summer. I mound a small pile of mulch at the base of the plant for winter. This winter I wrapped some burlap around the perimeter of the bed, first time I've tried burlap. It was a flimsy set up, however, and snow and wind have dragged the burlap down, so it might not be that useful at this point. There's about 8 inches of snow on the ground, and that might be helping to keep the roses alive, if they are alive at all after this cold snap. |
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| Ack. We have a dusting to zero snow cover. I'm afraid my Lady Hillingdon will be toast...at least to the ground. I don't want to throw any more teas to the dogs. :) The Duchesse will never be the big beautiful plant that I see in the pictures...boohoo. Eric |
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| Eric, I feel your pain! I move my LH from a bench on the outside of the deck to a nice south facing brick wall (yes it is still in a pot) the day before we were going to get these horrific low temps. We only got down to 3.9 degrees last night so, woohoo! Only two cold nights. the night before it got down to 7 degrees - maybe it'll be OK. I'm still hopeful, for all my teas. Tomorrow it's back up into the 30s and 40s and lows in the 20s. Hopefully the big freeze wasn't long enough to do permanent damage. We'll see! |
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