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Old Roses carved in stone.....(pics)

celeste/NH
16 years ago

Many of you know from my previous posts that my husband and I travel all around our state (and beyond)in search of

old cemeteries in our quest to find old roses. We have found quite a few old roses from which we take a cutting to ensure that the wonderful old rose will not be lost forever, and return each summer to care for the original bush. There are hundreds of small cemetery plots around our state, many of them in a state of neglect and we rarely find any roses in them.....just dirt, weeds and moss. But even if we don't find a living rose, we oftentimes find wonderful tombstones with roses carved into them, mainly centifolia roses with their "cabbage" shape. We did a little research and found out the meaning of roses on headstones. When a small child or infant has died, the rose is but a rosebud still unopened. This signifies that the rose has not had a chance to bloom...just like the infant has not had a chance to live its life. Whenever you see a full-blown rose with a severed stem, this signifies a young person or adult whose life was "cut short". When there is a fully-opened rose with an intact stem, it will be a mature adult who lived a long life.

I wanted to share a few photos of some of these old

tombstones roses I have come across. We find these same rose depictions on great numbers of headstones in dozens of cemeteries all over the state. They are both fascinating and somber... beautiful reminders of souls who once blossomed here on earth, and of those who never had the chance.

Celeste

An unopened Rosebud....on an infant's grave...symbolizing the start of life, cut short.

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the next two photos are of youths who died....whereas babies had just the unopened rosebud, the graves of older children or teenagers show both a full bloom and a severed rosebud...meaning they were in the full bloom of life when they died....the rosebud signifies that there were still many blooms waiting to open, but were cut short.

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The next two were graves of adults who were still fairly young....notice fully opened blooms with the severed stems...signifying that the deaths were unexpected and sudden.

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The following was on the grave of an elderly woman...notice the full blown rose, but no severing of the stem, since the person had lived a long life.

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We also find roses on stones in many other forms, such as...

outstretched hand dropping a rose on the grave

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rose wreaths....

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rose bouquets, often with other flowers (lilies signify purity)....

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and notice the woman's name....

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Comments (37)

  • ronda_in_carolina
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thank you...I never knew that about the symbolism of roses on tombstones. Very touching!

  • jerijen
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    You've got at least one I haven't run across -- the hand dropping a rose. That's lovely.
    I find as much pleasure in these lovely sculptures as I find in the living roses that often surround them.

    Here's one of my favorites, from an old Gold Rush Era cemetery.

    Jeri

    Here is a link that might be useful:

  • gnabonnand
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thanks for sharing this with us, it's very thought provoking.
    I never knew.
    What great, and appropriate symbolism.

    Randy

  • remy_gw
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Celeste,
    That's really neat. I never knew any of the symbolism.
    Thanks for the lesson : )
    Remy

  • stefanb8
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Celeste, I loved seeing those pics. It reminded me of the stones my parents put up for themselves and my sister when she died as an infant in the early 80s - hers has a rose bud carved, while their headstones have roses fully opened. They planted a rugosa hybrid there (it's in the middle of a windswept North Dakota prairie) and it has thrived ever since. Wild prairie roses (Rosa arkansana) grow wild there, and were suckering all around in the mowed grass on the plot... so we moved some into the flower bed there, too. More people have planted hardy roses in the years to follow (before that there were just hybrid teas, which obviously didn't last but a year or two). It's nice that roses continue touch us and watch over us even after we're gone.

  • cincy_city_garden
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thanks Celeste for the pictures and the information. Life and roses, very appropriate, we should enjoy both while we have them. I'll have to check the old cemetary in my hometown now!

    Eric

  • cemeteryrose
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Celeste, thank you so much for posting this. I collect pix of stone roses, too. You have a couple of styles that are different than I've seen, but overall, they were doing much the same thing out here in California as on the East Coast.

    Jeri, there's at least one in the Sacto cemetery that has a hand holding, if not dropping, a rose - it combines the rose symbology with a lamb, another very popular symbol for a child.
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    One of my favorite plots in Sacramento has five children buried there - so heartbreaking, two died within days of one another of diptheria - there is one stone set up for three of them, which has many of the symbols for children - a lamb, a dove carrying a broken rosebud, and another broken rosebud. This plot has Fortune's Double Yellow in the center of it.
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    Anita

  • zeffyrose
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Celeste---As soon as I see your name I know immediately that I will be enthralled with your post.

    this is a true treasure of information.

    thank you so much----

    This is sad but very informative.

    Florence

  • rosefolly
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Celeste, that is a remarkably informative chronicle, and fascinating rose lore as well. I had never realized the symbolism, though of course it makes perfect sense once someone has explained it. The pictures make it all vivid. It will stay in my mind, and next time I am in an old cemetery, I will see what I can find myself.

    Rosefolly

  • celeste/NH
    Original Author
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hello everyone....
    Thank you for all your positive feedback on the pictures. I am glad to know that you were touched to learn of the symbolism of the rose. I really find the old gravestones fascinating.
    Anita....thanks for your photos....I enjoyed seeing them. I wanted to share a few more pics, since a few of mine are similiar to yours.
    Also, if anyone is intrigued by the meanings of tombstone symbols, I have posted a list of the more common ones after the photographs.

    Celeste

    another hand, this time with a rosebud....

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    child's gravestone with rose and a lamb

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    very old stone, child hugging lamb.....(little child's stone)

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    another stone, slightly different version of child hugging lamb....

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    dove with rosebud....grave of an infant

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    angel taking child up to heaven, holding rosebuds & a torch..

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    Gravestone symbols and their meanings:

    Winged face.... effigy of the deceased soul; the soul in flight.
    Wreath.... victory
    Wheatstrands or sheaves.... the divine harvest
    Tree.... life
    Tree stump.... life interrupted
    Leaning Tree trunk.... short, interrupted life
    Urn.... immortality
    Urn with blaze.... undying friendship
    Weeping willow tree.... mourning; grief; nature's lament
    Winged cherub.... resurrected immortal soul
    Torch, inverted.... life extinct
    Oak leaves & acorn.... maturity; ripe old age
    Open book or bible.... deceased teacher or minister
    Moon, Stars.... soul rising to heaven
    Lion.... courage
    Palm branch.... victory and rejoicing
    Morning glory.... beginning of life
    Scythe.... death; the divine harvest
    Skull, skeleton, bones.... mortality, death
    Rising Sun.... renewed life
    Sun, shining....life everlasting
    Sun setting.... death
    Thistle.... Scottish descent or remembrance
    Stars & stripes....eternal vigilance
    Lamb.... innocence
    Hourglass.... the passing of time
    Hourglass flying.... time flies
    Ivy.... friendship and immortality
    Lily or Lily-of-the-Valley.... innocence and purity
    Harp.... praise to the Maker
    Cherub.... angelic
    Hands, clasped.... the goodbyes said at death
    Handshakes.... farewell
    Dove.... purity, devotion
    Dove flying.... resurrection
    Grapevine.... church is the vine, members are the grapes
    Garland or Wreath.... victory in death
    Drapes.... mourning
    Fruits.... eternal plenty
    Hand, pointing up.... pathway to heaven; heavenly reward.
    Acanthus leaves....life everlasting
    Crossed swords.... high ranking military person
    Crown.... glory of life after death
    Flower.... fragility of life
    Flame or light.... life, resurrection
    Anchor or Ships.... christian hope; seafaring profession
    Angel, flying.... rebirth, resurrection
    Bird.... eternal life
    Bouquet of flowers.... condolences, grief, sorrow
    Arch.... victory in death
    Cup or chalice.... the sacraments

  • onewheeler
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Celeste I grew up next to a cemetary. I have never thought to take pictures of the stones though, how very unique and interesting. I love the roses on them.

    I hope mine has some oak leaves and an acorn, LOL.

    Thanks for sharing that information with us.

    Valerie

  • buffington22
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Old cemeteries are quite poignant(?) to me. In the old Monroe City Cemetary, there is an enclosed family plot which has several children's graves. On the last one, there is this inscription," Here lies the last hope of John and Mary". All of their children died in infancy or childhood.I think there were 5 or more. I haven't been there in several years. I need to go back and look for carved roses and other symbols.Thanks, Celestialrose, for the key to the symbols. Buff

  • cottagegirl_tn
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I am intrigued. I never knew there were hidden meanings in those different carvings. Wait till me and DH go to another cemetery...He'll think I'm so smart! Thanks for the pics, they are hauntingly beautiful.

  • cemeteryrose
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Love the stones with the child hugging a lamb, and the angel with the child (and roses). The Sacramento cemetery was founded in 1850, and most of the stones are from the 1860s and later. I think that your stones are somewhat older, Celeste - thanks for sharing them.
    Anita

  • hartwood
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I'm a photo volunteer for 'find a grave dot com'. I was out yesterday afternoon on an assignment, and the first grave I photographed had roses on it.

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    Here's an example from the Old City Cemetery in Lynchburg. The rose by this grave is Old Blush.

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    The art aspect of old gravestones is facinating. I especially love the children's stones -- though the thought of them is heartbreaking.

    Connie

  • remy_gw
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Great photos everyone!

    Celeste,
    Thanks for the list of symbol meanings. I too wouldn't mind some oak leaves and acorns on my headstone, lol.
    Remy

  • triple_b
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    We have lost two babies in just over one year to stillbirth, one at 33 weeks and the second at 36. I planted a Madame Hardy because I wanted a white rose for my son, and this spring I am looking for a pink rose for the daughter we lost, so I can cut the flowers and take them up to their graves. I am thinking either Memorial Day (Weeks, David Carruths.) or Sharifa Asma. I'm thinking the Memorial Day will last longer once cut. Now after reading your beautiful post, I will know to take BUDS to their sites instead of fully open roses.
    Thank you for providing this information.

  • celeste/NH
    Original Author
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    triple b....
    I am SO very sorry for your heartbreaking losses. As a mother I can only imagine the endless depths of grief you are feeling.
    I will always be touched by a gravestone of a little infant girl who my DH and I found from the early 1800's, who shared our last name. There was the usual rosebud on the stone accompanied by this simple yet touching inscription:
    Lilla Woodbury

    age 4 months

    "A bud on Earth,
    A bloom in Heaven."

    May you find solace in this verse, that your little angels
    are the most beautiful of roses blooming in Heaven.

    Celeste

  • littlesmokie
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Honestly, if I'd known what this post contained I may not have read it, but I've been enriched by doing so. Thank you to Celeste and all of you for contributing your thoughts and photos. I also have a knot in my throat over the babies and children's graves.

    My grandmother will be 96 this May and when contemplating her own passing says each time that she looks forward to seeing "her Larry" who she refers to as her "heart," her dear affectionate 4 year old who died unexpectedly from a heart problem 92 years ago. Now that I have a child, I understand this. Before I wondered at what point time would lessen her grief.

    triple_b blessings to you...
    Dawn

  • celeste/NH
    Original Author
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I came across some more poignant photos of stones and wanted to share them with those of you who showed an interest.
    Many thanks to all for your responses!

    Celeste

    Angel leading child to Heaven.....

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    This stone of 2 infants who died made me want to cry.....

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    Extremely old gravestone....dating back to 1700....
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    Oak leaves & acorns for Valerie & Remy.....

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  • cindyabs
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thank you Celeste for posting the pics. When I was a little girl and my grandmother was visiting, we used to go for Sunday drives and hunt down old cemetaries. I grew up in the North Country part of NH.

  • cemeteryrose
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    There are so many similarities here in California!

    A broken stem (it was raining, hence the foggy lens!)
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    A very common marble design on children's graves
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    An angel with torch and bouquet. We grow a found rose, "Rosa Davey," which is an unidentified early pink HT.
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    A much-photographed gravestone. No stone rose here (just a bear!) but the rose, Placerville White Noisette, is sold by Vintage and is a lovely small everblooming rose.
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    And finally, some more oak leaves and acorns. I didn't know their meaning, Celeste - thanks.
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    Anita

  • celeste/NH
    Original Author
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    cindyabs....that's neat to hear that you once lived here in NH...some of these pics are from cemeteries in the northern part of the state. Some folks think that going into cemeteries to look at the stones is morbid, but I don't think so. Its actually very comforting to me to make peace with where we're all going to end up eventually!
    And reading the inscriptions is fascinating and educational...so much American history is revealed. We have found stones of dignitaries from long ago in many cemeteries across our state and New England.

    Anita....I loved your photos....and yes, you are right! There are such similiarities between our stones, even though yours are on the West coast and mine the East coast.
    I find that so interesting. Thanks for sharing yours.

    Celeste

  • triple_b
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    they are truly fascinating. And for the most part, cemetaries are beautiful places.

  • erasmus_gw
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    This is another example of always learning something new on GW...thanks for the lovely pictures and the explanation about symbolism.
    Linda

  • alameda/zone 8/East Texas
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Lovely, interesting post. My mother, who adored her father, my grandfather, had a bronze plaque on his grave that has roses on it, that I have loved to this day: We seem to give him back to Thee, Dear God, but as you have not lost him in giving, so we have not lost him by his return.
    Judith

  • triple_b
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I LOVE that!!

  • vics_gardenkeeper
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Dear Celestialrose, such beautiful pictures thank you for sharing. We have a kneeling lamb on our son's grave and my husband drew the sketch for it because we couldn't find the "exact right" lamb. Dear triple b, I'm very sorry for your losses. Our son Vic died at birth several years ago. Because of him we started a memorial rose garden for lost infants and I got to know all of these wonderful people and buy many beautiful old garden roses.

  • ofionnachta
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    These photos are beautiful & so touching!

    triple b, my Mom lost 3 little angels before I was born, to late miscarriages. Then they discovered her problem & surgery put her uterus in the right position. When I was about 8,9 yr old our parents told all 3 of us about our "older" sibs. We are now middle aged and our parents have joined them, but we have never forgotten that there are 5 gone ahead of us not 2.

    I hope your problem will be resolved too & you have my prayers for it to be so! And meanwhile you will always carry them in your heart, as you know.

  • chisue
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Judith -- I like the inscription you posted from your grandfather's stone, recognizing the totality of life and death.

    It's too long for me to post here, but you can Google the poem about "...The rose that grows beyond the wall..."

    In my own genealogy I found a child's stone inscribed:
    "Thou art gone Little Willie,
    Sweet proof of our love.
    From Earth's Fairy Strand,
    To bright Heavens above."

  • theroselvr
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Still look at this post from time to time..

  • seil zone 6b MI
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Don't remember seeing this one before but it's a wonderful thread, thank you!

  • rosefolly
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    It is a good post, isn't it?

    I miss Celeste on this forum. I haven't seen her post in quite some time.

    Rosefolly

  • melissa_thefarm
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I miss Celeste, too; wherever she is I hope she's all right. I don't remember this post, either, and it's beautiful.

    Melissa

  • nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I agree - this is a great post and deserves revisiting.

    BTW - how do you access posts this old? When I've done a search for threads I know were no more than 2-3 years old, they no longer pop up on GW, and the pages at the bottom of the screen only go up through 66 or so pages anyway. It would be nice to revisit some more of these old friends of threads.

    And speaking of old friends, Celeste is indeed sorely missed, for her delightful cheerful interaction as well as a gifted cold weather rose gardener.

    Cynthia

  • theroselvr
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    This one was easy to find; I went to google; typed in meaning of roses on headstones. I look at the post a few times a year.

    Myself & a few friends are looking to purchase a headstone for a teenage Jane Doe