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Tue, Feb 5, 13 at 2:23
| I have to wait until next winter for my order from Bierkreek, as they have sold out of Annie Laurie McDowell, Grandmother's Hat and Oklahoma. Looking on their website, I see that they also have Marie Pavie. I know nothing about this rose, except that she is small. Is she strongly perfumed? Does she flower continuously? Can she take all day strong sunshine? Does she have any other qualities? Please tell. Thanks. Daisy |
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- Posted by jeannie2009 PNW 7/8 (My Page) on Tue, Feb 5, 13 at 6:08
| Good morning Daisy. I planted Marie Pavie 3 years ago. And glad I did. She is what I would call a feminine delicate looking rose. Ah looks could be deceiving, and in her case are. No fungal disease, vigorous growth habit and a delicate almost muskie smell. Her stems are quite smooth and new growth has the plum shading which we love so much. I hesitated to reply since our climates are discimilar. I would think that in your heat she would color fade which would be a shame. While we have wet winters, our summers are extremely dry and the skies quite clear. I wonder if you have considered Leonie Lamesh. This is another Poly which I adore. Her coloring is richer which might not fade as much in your climate. No personal experience as she is on order this spring. A dear friend considers her a must have. She lives in Arizona which has a climate quite similar to yours. No matter what you choose she'll be lovely. I've seen pics of your roses and they are luxurious. Take care, Jeannie |
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- Posted by jeannie2009 PNW 7/8 (My Page) on Tue, Feb 5, 13 at 6:13
| Hi Daisy It's me again. Jut one or two posts below is a post from John with a link to Rogue Nursery. I have ordered from this nursery and their roses are wonderful. There shipping tecniques are terrific. You might wish to check them out for the other roses that you were unable to locate from your usual vendor. Bye Jeannie |
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| yes, yes, don't know, endures terrible drought and full shade and still blooms(!). Dainty as can be, so sweet! |
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| Daisy, after all those extolling Marie Pavie's virtues, I fear it falls to me to point out what was to me a significant vice. Those plentiful blooms never ever fall off, even long after they've turned brown. It's like they're glued on. Unless I deadheaded religiously, the otherwise handsome plant looked like a messy mix of pretty pale blossoms and papery brown persistent leftovers. I freely admit that this might be an issue for me but not for others, but better you should have full information. That aside, it's a great rose, and a lot tougher than you might suspect, given how delicate it looks. Kay |
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- Posted by organicgardendreams z 10 (My Page) on Tue, Feb 5, 13 at 17:20
| Hi Daisy, I am growing Marie Pavie in my garden in Southern California. To my nose she is very fragrant and what is special is that her fragrance wafts, which hardly any other roses do here because of the low humidity. She flowers continuously for me, but of course in the winter she is less floriferous than lets say in the spring. I am growing her in part shade, but I assume that she can take full sunshine. She is a completely healthy rose for me with lovely foliage and dainty blooms of great delicate beauty. In my eyes she has only one drawback and that is what Kay already said. She doesn't drop the flower petals when the blooms are done and need to be deadheaded. Otherwise I feel she can take on a "dirty look", which I don't like much. There is one more thing. To my knowledge there are two slightly different roses out there under the name Marie Pavie. One has more petals than the other and shows the yellow stamens less. I have the more filled variety (ordered from Vintage Gardens) and decidedly prefer it over the one with less petals, but this is certainly a matter of personal taste. Overall I love and would recommend this rose! If you want to see mine, I just posted a photo of her blooms on my blog. Just click on the link below and it will take you there. Christina |
Here is a link that might be useful: Photo Marie Pavie
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- Posted by kittymoonbeam 10 (My Page) on Tue, Feb 5, 13 at 23:30
| This is a new one for me. I ordered mine as a band last fall but woo it grows fast! Even on such a tiny thing, there were sprays of flowers. I have a great feeling about this rose. |
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- Posted by daisyincrete 10? (My Page) on Thu, Feb 7, 13 at 0:37
| Thank-you all for such full information. Brilliant! It is interesting that Jeannie, in the PNW, speaks of her perfume as delicate. Whereas, Hoovb and Christina in California don't. In fact Christina tells me that she is very fragrant and her fragrance wafts. Lovely. Well, my climate is similar to California so hopefully she will be strongly scented here. Kay, I am glad you told me about her drawback. I prefer to know. She will be planted alongside a path, so dead heading shouldn't be too onerous. Jeannie, I looked on Rogue Valley's website, but they don't have Annie Laurie McDowell, which is the rose that I made up the order for. Christina, thank-you for those photos. I love your blog. Daisy |
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- Posted by sabalmatt_dallas Z8 Dallas (My Page) on Thu, Feb 7, 13 at 23:51
| HI Daisy, For me, in Dallas, TX 'marie pavie' is a rewarding workhorse. She has been disease free, constantly blooming- even during months of 100* heat and has a nice, wafting, musk-like fragrance. My plant is about 4'x4' and would be a little larger if not for my twice per yr trimming. She does need to be dead headed. |
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- Posted by Kippy-the-Hippy 10 Sunset 24 (My Page) on Sat, Feb 9, 13 at 11:58
| I bought a couple of Marie Pavies for this season, one a band in December and the other a 1g at pruning demo plus a bunch of other bands. All are potted up to 1g's now. Out of the collection of babies in the green house, 3 are growing fast; the two Maries and Lady Ann Kidwell. I am really looking forward to seeing how they look next year! |
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- Posted by harborrose 8a-PNW (My Page) on Sat, Feb 9, 13 at 13:50
| I love Marie Pavie. Mine bloom constantly too; I have three of the Vintage clone in a small hedge planting. I have grown both the Vintage and other clone and agree that the Vintage is the prettier - wish I could send you a rooted cutting, Daisy. Christina, your photos are beautiful. |
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| We too have and love our Marie Pavie from a Vintage band. It's already in bloom! I agree with all the good comments. One that i don't think has been mentioned is that the petals can be dried and still retain their fragrance - great for pot pourri. |
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