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The colour on Munstead Wood...

Posted by jumbojimmy (My Page) on
Sun, Feb 10, 13 at 3:07

My Munstead Wood has been blooming through the summer period and I'm not really pleased with the colour. The colour looks almost identical to Young Lycidas. I was hoping for a more darker/blackish red like the first bloom that appeared in early spring.
How can I make it turn more darker?


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RE: The colour on Munstead Wood...

I commented on this problem in the photo gallery, but to repeat, I think it might have something to do with warmer-cooler weather. Lots of roses "bleach out" in really hot summer weather but get their color back as cooler temps approach in autumn. So it's possible MW lightens to a pinker shade of red in the summer but will become that dark rich velvety black-purple-red in the cooler autumn weather.

Another possibility: sometimes the earlier blooms on a new plant don't come out the true color. When the rose gains some maturity, it might retain the dark rich shades better.

At least I hope so. Like you, I want my MW coming to my garden this spring to do its dark drama thing!

We must check back next summer and compare notes on MW.

Kate


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RE: The colour on Munstead Wood...

I bought a tiny Munstead Wood late summer, and put her in a partial (afternoon) shade spot. My ground is sand, and I did my typical well-composted horse manure amendment (about 50/50). I got about 4 blooms in the fall, and they were very dark red, and very fragrant. I have YL, and the colors couldn't be more different at my place. My YL is super dark pink and most of the time looks purple.


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RE: The colour on Munstead Wood...

  • Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
    Sun, Feb 10, 13 at 11:17

My experience in my garden is that summer color will improve once the plant is well-established. It may not ever be as good as the cool-weather color, but I've found that true of every rose of every color.

If you are really intent on superb color, try growing the plant under 25% shade cloth as rose exhibitors often do.


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RE: The colour on Munstead Wood...

I usually plant my dark red roses where they get 4-6 hours of morning sun and part shade/shade the rest of the day so they retain their colour best. I have one group in all day sun and even though they do fade some they still look pretty dark to me - perhaps it could be the hotter temps at your places that affects the colour - not just the sun? This flower from the full sun group:

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RE: The colour on Munstead Wood...

Hi everyone! Thanks for all your comments. It's so great to see some familiar names on this board! I think it's the heat from hot weather. I hope it gets darker in autumn.
Munstead Wood is a nice rose but it's too thorny compare to YL. I'm too afraid to touch the blooms without my gloves on.

Here is Munstead Wood (Left) next to Young Lycidas (right)


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RE: The colour on Munstead Wood...

You sure your Munstead Wood wasn't mismarked? Indeed that looks like two YLs.


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RE: The colour on Munstead Wood...

Jumbojimmy, both of the roses in your photo look absolutely gorgeous! Both are such well-foliated shapely bushes, even growing in pots.

It looks like 'Munstead Wood' really is affected by seasonal temperature and/or light variations. I started a thread a while back which asked if 'Munstead Wood' stayed a true dark red all season or if it passed through these (still pretty) dark pink phases.


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  • Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
    Mon, Feb 11, 13 at 14:26

They look great!


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RE: The colour on Munstead Wood...

Thanks everyone!

I just don't like the colour - it's too similar to Laguna.

harmonyp-

Munstead Wood (left) has a more stiffer growth habit with thorns like Gertrude Jekyll. You don't want to put your
bare hands inside!

Young Lycidas has less thorns than Munstead Wood- at least you can reach for the blooms without getting all those nasty scratches.
The blooms are much bigger and blousier

Roses growing in pots requre lots of watering to perform well. My St Swithun is now looking really splendid in a pot. The blooms are so romantic. I just wish it bloom more.


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