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Posted by campanula UK Cambridge (My Page) on Sat, Feb 11, 12 at 6:23
| Because I like roses which are not too far removed from the wild form, I came across this little gem and sighed. I sighed even louder on finding out that Bierkreek, my current nursey rave, stock it. OK, I am NOT in Cali but in dry and windy eastern england and am typing with grand-daughter on lap, hence no punctuation but a soulieana/moss hybrid has piqued mt interest. should 1? |
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RE: Dawn Crest
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RE: Dawn Crest
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| Campanula, if it's half as good there as it is here in "sunny California", it will be the best rose in your garden! I begged Mr. Moore to introduce this rose for a decade. He never did, instead sharing with a few of us "regulars". His objections to it were it didn't have enough "cresting" on the sepals and the plant was "too vigorous". It fell outside his comfort zone so he wasn't sure it would sell. Oh, yes, this WILL sell! It is wonderfully fragrant; has just enough cresting to be beautiful; flowers year round here; has a beautiful color; beautiful foliage and can even demonstrate "cresting" with the foliage, producing small "wings" along the mid rib between the first leaflet and the stipule and has no health issue reports from anywhere...yet. You're welcome! This was part of one of the boxes of budwood I sent to Bierkreek. I knew Hans had to try this there. I pray with the winter you're all having, all are safe and well. You'll love this thing! I can also tell you it is fertile, both by seed and pollen. Enjoy! Kim |
RE: Dawn Crest
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| I have searched for this rose have I didn't find one, where can I see/buy or get cuttings/seeds. Jessica |
RE: Dawn Crest
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| so cold and miserable, I am ordering it NOW. finger already pressed buy! Bierkreeks roses are not expensive and easily justify the carriage costs between the UK and Holland. The first lot were small but astonishingly green and vibrant with many healthy questing roots. Pleased to go back to the old canina rootstocks too (I learnt grafting on these thorny villains).Expecting to become a regular! |
RE: Dawn Crest
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| Kim, I should add that the cresting seems to be more pronounced (and the blooms a bit larger) as the plant matures. Our plant is in poor condition, and we can make no more cuttings from it. Happily, someone with whom I had shared it a few years back has also propagated it, and is bringing me a plant in April. I'm so relieved. I am still hoping the current plant will make it, but having another will be a comfort. In case. It is worth noting that we feel its ONLY flaw (if it is a flaw) is that it has many really large prickles. Jeri |
RE: Dawn Crest
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| Thanks, Jeri, I'm aware the cresting improves with age, but Mr. Moore had hybrids with truly exaggerated sepals and those were what he saw in his mind's eye. What he chose to introduce, but never was, had much larger, much more lacy sepals, though it was in no way the quality of plant, nor was it as all around beautiful, nor did it have any fragrance. That rose still exists, but it will never replace Dawn Crest. Kim |
RE: Dawn Crest
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ah, prickles don't bother me much as I am a reluctant pruner and like to keep marauding teenagers off my plot, especially around strawberry time. I prune to shape in my home garden but often let the allotment roses run amok for a few years.
Not too fussed about mossing either - I only possess one other moss rose (mme louis leveque). Luckily, there was a good photo of a complete bush on HMF and it was down to that one picture plus the lineage that attracted me. The little rose sat so gracefully and the stamens were so elegantly displayed. Mr.Moore was cut from the same cloth as some of most innovative rose breeders (Svedja, Sievers, LeGrice, Harkness, Lens) and while some of the experiments are definately not to my taste (stripes), there are others which are just extraordinary. I am currently enjoying Mr Bluebird and Little Buckaroo which have enhanced my onion frame. |
RE: Dawn Crest
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| You're quite right Kim, and frankly, I don't think those other roses would have been good choices for my rather difficult environment. I heard Tom Carruth say that Mr. Moore was one of the breeders who had freed other hybridizers from solely concentrating on the high-centered HT form. I think that's true, too. He left us many gifts, including this one that he really didn't intend. I think you'll enjoy Dawn Crest greatly -- I gave her her name, so you know that I really do love her. Jeri |
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