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Molineux or Licorice Tea ?

Posted by Alana7bSC 7b-8 (My Page) on
Sun, Feb 10, 13 at 11:28

If anyone growing these two roses if you can give any information that would be greatly appreciated. Pictures of whole bushes and flowers would be greatly appreciated along with any personnel comments as to which you prefer and why. Do the colors fade in the sun or stay true, disease resistant, and shade tolerant, vigorous? All this information would be helpful on choosing, Thanks.


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RE: Molineux or Licorice Tea ?

Alana -- I have not grown Molineux. By the time it came along, we were approaching the conclusion that most Austun roses were not our best choices.

Licorice Tea, OTOH, we DO grow, though our plant is not yet fully mature. (So I can't tell you about habit or stature.)

HOWEVER I can say that the blooms are a lovely mid-range yellow -- a very clear shade, which does not fade,here. The foliage is attractive, and very dark green, and makes a lovely foil for the blooms.

The parents are 'Mons. Tillier' -- A Tea Rose which for us is completely free of disease, and a champion bloomer -- and 'Lilian Austen.' We have not grown the latter, but have observed her in public gardens, where she, too, was clean.

OTOH, we are in Southern California.
Our principal fungal diseases are rust, powdery mildew, and in damp years, downy mildew.
Blackspot is rare for us, so I cannot speak for resistance to that.

Jeri
SW Ventura County, Southern CA


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I can only comment on Molineux. It changes color a lot--anything from light creamy yellow with light golden-apricot center to a richer golden-yellow with pronounced apricot centers -- even mostly apricot occasionally, sometimes with an almost pinkish hue to it (but that is unusual).

Most often I think of Molineux having about the shade of the following picture--or perhaps a bit lighter. The lighter shades prevail when it gets really, really hot outside, but it never has a "faded" look.

Molineux--typical bloom.
Molineux (Austin shrub) photo molineuxxcluster.jpg

Here you can see it more as a bush--about 3.5 x 2--not very wide, which is why I planted 3 together to create the illusion of one big fat shrub. If you look closely, you can kinda tell where the one on the left ends (I didn't get it quite close enough--but usually that isn't noticeable).

Molineux whole bush (3 plants in one)
 photo molineuxxx4-16-12.jpg

Molineux is quite floriferous--good rebloom, even in hot weather as a whole, though when our temps stay over 100 for weeks on end, Molineux (like all my other roses) will semi-shut down until some cooler weather approaches.

It is fairly good on disease-resistance (meaning blackspot)--it has some minor attacks periodically, but nothing major or unmanageable. I do spray it a couple times in the spring and a couple times in the fall. Rest of the time, it takes care of itself.

About partial shade, I don't know. Mine gets quite a bit of sun. I would worry that it might have more BS problems if it is in partial shade, but I really don't know.

Molineux is one of my absolute favorite roses, and I especially like it masquerading as a big full (3-in-1)bush.

Kate


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I had Licorice Tea for about 3 yrs. It grew well and bloomed very well. I wasn't to wild about the bloom shape. Gave it away. I've had Molineux for a long time. In Fl. I grew it on fortuniana root stock (HUGE bush). Up here I"m growing it own root. One of the few roses I will always have in my garden. I like everything about it. Mine only gets 6 hrs of of partial sun (big tree in front yard), then shade in the afternoon. Grows and blooms like a champ.


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Thanks Jeri and Kate. Ken what about the shape of the blooms didn't you like? Loving both of them so far! :p


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Though my 'Licorice Tea' is yet immature, I find that the form has been variable. Sometimes, it has the casual form of 'Lillian Austin, but not infrequently, it begins to approach the form of its OTHER parent, 'Mons. Tillier.'

Jeri


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  • Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
    Mon, Feb 11, 13 at 14:58

Excellent repeat on 'Molineux'. I like it a lot. Fragrance is a little odd, but it's more for landscape beauty than sniffing in this garden.


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Thanks Jeri and hoovb, I like the color of Licorice Tea but the size of Molineux, because I have soo many large roses coming in this spring already! but it's still so hard to choose. can Licorice Tea be used as a climber are the canes lax?


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The descriptive information says that Licorice Tea can make a climber, and the canes seem lax enough to permit that. I might use it that way.

Jeri


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Thanks Jeri, it would save room that way if I wind her on a pillar like arbor, I think that would be pretty. I would get more laterals and blooms that way to don't ya think?


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Alana7bSC-----For me the blooms on LT seemed kinda soft, floppy, tissue like. Melineux has good substance to the bloom petals. I like something behind the blooms of the roses I grow. But each bloom on ANY rose has it's own charm. Try them both and see what you like. There's a good chance you might like them both.


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Thanks ken .. that's what I'm afraid of. My DH is already mad about me getting all the roses I've ordered so far, lol. and adding two more to the three more I'm adding, as soon as they get in stock is not helping.lol I'm adding Ispahan, Konigen von Danemark, and Kazanlik as soon as they get in stock at RVR.


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