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| I have a David Austin Molineux rose and love the way it looks like a small bush instead of having stiff canes. I am considering getting two other David Austins and want ones that have the same shape/size as the Molineux as well as the continual flowering. Would any of these work? Benjamin Britten Thank you!!! |
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- Posted by lola-lemon none (My Page) on Thu, Feb 14, 13 at 16:28
| What's your zone? Definite NO on Gertrude. |
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| Elizac, Lola-lemon's question as to your location is completely valid. Where you are will strongly determine how the roses in question are going to grow and perform. In Austin's British climate, Graham Thomas was described as a "mannerly, five foot shrub". In my Los Angeles climate, Graham Thomas is a twelve to fifteen foot climber. Golden Celebration is an eight to ten foot monster and Gertrude Jekyll demands to be permitted her eight to nine feet of thorniness. The larger, more climbing types of Austin's roses are also extremely water demanding, compared to the more controlled growers and many other types of roses. Perdita and Tamora can easily be grown here with the same treatment and water as traditional HTs and floribundas. Graham Thomas and Golden Celebration can't. That makes them performance issues in my climate and soil type. It may not in yours, but who will know until you either state your location, or put it in your profile? It makes a huge difference. Kim |
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| I'm in Seattle WA. :) |
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- Posted by lola-lemon none (My Page) on Thu, Feb 14, 13 at 18:08
| Although they aren't on your list-- I might suggest Lady Emma Hamilton and Munstead Wood. I've not grown Molineux- but these are the shortest I've dealt with with nice shapes. |
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- Posted by amberroses 10a-Pinellas Co.FL (My Page) on Thu, Feb 14, 13 at 19:14
| Maybe Sister Elizabeth? It is small and has very tiny flexible canes. |
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- Posted by roseteacher 9 (My Page) on Fri, Feb 15, 13 at 0:01
| Hello Elizac, I grow Molineux as a tree rose, and the other Austins that have a similar shape and form are Sophy's Rose and Lady Emma Hamilton. Sophy's Rose is a beautiful dark pink, and LEH is orange. Evelyn, Golden Celebration, and Gertrude Jekyll are huge in my southern Ca. inland climate. I hope that helps. Lisa |
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| I haven't grown most of the Austins you list--except thorny, thorny Gertrude. Beautiful flowers, but that is her only virtue. Everything else about the shrub is awful! In my zone, Molineux grows about 3x2--as listed in Austin's catalog. Is that about what yours grows to? If not, you may have to make some adjustments for different heights and widths. I just ordered Munstead Woods to plant near my Molineux. I'm hoping both are in the same general height-width range. They seem to have similar flexibility, so I think they will make a good match--and the color contrast should be quite dramatic! You might like that combination also. If you are more into pinks, Princess Alexandra of Kent is an excellent smaller Austin--about 3x3 and flexible canes--according to Austin's description, but I haven't grown it (although I'd love to if I had more room), so I can't say for sure. I noticed that Austin has a new one that is pinkish/purplish--Princess Anne. It also sounds good and is the right size, but I haven't grown it either. I have seen both of the "princesses" praised by posters on this forum, so I think either one should be a good choice--but myself, I prefer the dramatic contast of Munstead Woods and Molineux. Kate |
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| The Benjamin Britten roses at the Municipal Rose Garden in Tyler Texas are huge, easily 7-8ft tall and 6ft wide. |
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| Harlow Carr is a beautiful rose that couldn't stand my hot, dry garden but I was very sorry to see it go. I would think it will stay small and mine was a short, rounded bush, although it wasn't mature when I let it go. Sister Elizabeth is also beautiful but with longer, thinner canes. Here it needs afternoon shade but I doubt you'd have to worry about that. If it were my choice, I'd pick Harlow Carr. Ingrid |
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| I grow 'Pretty Jessica' which is quite a small bush, and the flowers have the most incredible Damask scent. My climate is very similar to yours. It's a slow grower, and a bit on the delicate side, but I've been very happy with it: I have two bushes side by side and neither of them has ever gotten out of control or thrown out octopus canes. |
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| The Alnwick Rose is compact, has superb fragrance. |
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| In my overly-mild SoCal coastal climate, Evelyn was another 12-ft climber with poor blooming skills. Mildewed, too. (And that was when we still sprayed). Golden Celebration is a big, mannerly 6-ft. or so bush for us. Upright, but slightly arching. No disease most of the time, here (but it can blackspot, where that is a problem). Kim has correctly described Graham Thomas here. It seems to me that the Austin roses are particularly variable, in varying conditions. Jeri |
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- Posted by nguyenkhoa 8 - Vancouver, BC (My Page) on Mon, May 6, 13 at 13:01
| Here is the photo of Gertrude Jekyll from my own garden First bloom of the season is incredible, just fantastic. The fragrant is wonderful even on a cold day when nothing else really has any fragrant It is thorny, and it does not repeat that well but for me it is worth it |
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- Posted by nguyenkhoa zone 8 - Vancouver, (My Page) on Mon, May 6, 13 at 13:07
| Golden celebration: first bloom of the season is spectacular. I have gertrude jekyll and golden celebration side by side and those two roses but on a show in Jun every year Golden celebration has great fragrance but it only smells great in the warmer day (unlike Gertrude ) |
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- Posted by nguyenkhoa 8 - Vancouver, BC (My Page) on Mon, May 6, 13 at 13:18
| These are shorter David Austin roses that I really like Charlotte: short, nice plant, very nice flowers Benjamin Britten is good but it is so hard to mix it with any other plants in the garden. It does quite tall Golden Celebration and Gertrude Jekyll grow quite tall here in but I would grow them again. Golden Celebration first bloom of the season are so large and so beautiful I just wish it blooms all year long |
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- Posted by ken-n.ga.mts 7a/7b (My Page) on Tue, May 7, 13 at 9:33
| My Molineux is planted between Crocus and Carding Mill. Crocus and Carding Mill are a little wider then Molineux. All 3 look great together. |
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| For a smaller, well rounded bush, I second Tamora. For me, the Prince also has a smallish, lovely growth habit. Golden Celebration and Evelyn would probably be too large, and Evelyn has very stiff canes. I don't find my several Evelyn roses have a very rounded shape. Diane |
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