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| I am looking at adding some orange and apricot shades of David Austin roses to my garden or I am open to Romantica types as well which ever will do better in the heat. I am looking for bushes and climbers and will be growing these on the east side of the house in morning sun. It does get very hot here in the summers as we can have many days in a row above 100. I am interested in : Crocus Lady of Shalott Pat Austin Crown Princess Margareta Lady Emma Hamilton I would love Summer sun but it does not look to be available in the us Pegasus I do have in the back yard and it seems to do ok just does not flower much but that may be part of my care as well as it gets neglected and pruned hard but it stands at about 5-6 foot tall this spring and I do not plan on pruning it this spring and see if the flowering improves but it has never shown any sign of B.S. over the last years. Romanticas I do not know much about but I am open to them. Thanks |
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- Posted by caldonbeck none (My Page) on Mon, Feb 25, 13 at 17:41
| Crocus Rose fades to a naff colour even here so I wouldn't bother with that if you want apricot. Pat is useless avoid that. Flowers last a couple of days tops in our modest heat. Crown Princess Marg and Lady of Shallot are nice but will get big. Ladey Emma really nice and won't get as big. Do you mean Summer Song? if so, be thankful you can't get it lol. It's so lax it's beyond a joke. Consider some of the older ones too, sweet juliet for instance, they can be nice. Can you get port sunlight over there? |
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- Posted by caldonbeck none (My Page) on Mon, Feb 25, 13 at 17:59
| Forgot to mention Grace, my favourite apricot. |
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| I grow the Romantica rose 'Colette", and so far, it's not one of my favorites. I think it needs more heat than it's getting. Also, the scent, to me, is fleeting and its thorns are on the nasty side. That said, the buds are VERY pretty, and I chose to grow it based on its performance in my mother's garden. We're only 6 miles from each other, but her garden has a MUCH longer period of direct sun, and she has a very warm micro-climate: her 'Colette" shoots out new basal growth all the time, with LONG canes. It otherwise seems to be healthy, and I don't do any spraying in my garden. She also has a gorgeous 'Just Joey'...which I could be snobbish about and denounce as "too modern", but that plant is a blooming machine! And the coppery-orange-yellow is so pretty. I have a friend who has Crown Princess Margarete trained around her front door- impressive! If you like orange, i can't imagine that 'Lady Emma Hamilton" wouldn't please you. It would stick out like a sore thumb in my pastel garden, but it sure is pretty! Do you grow "Alchymist"? It's one of my favorite roses, though I've never grown it myself. The flower-form and the color are really lovely... |
Here is a link that might be useful: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.205721
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| Also...for something different, try this lovely rose. I've never seen it in person, but it sounds fascinating! |
Here is a link that might be useful: https://www.roguevalleyroses.com/rose/golden-buddha%E2%84%A2
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- Posted by orchidtrader z7 ok (pegasusdgm@gmail.com) on Mon, Feb 25, 13 at 19:08
| Thanks you for your input ! I think I would like Crown Princess Marg. My landscape is done with grey foliage and boxwoods along with some terra cotta pots with a grey house. So I would like orange shades along with cream colors. I do not like red and need some color. I will check out Colette and some of those other roses mentioned. Thanks again ! |
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- Posted by lola-lemon (My Page) on Mon, Feb 25, 13 at 20:12
| there is Tamora a shorter bush polka, the climber and Buff Beauty is a big but low growing choice |
This post was edited by lola-lemon on Mon, Feb 25, 13 at 20:15
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- Posted by johnnidappl (My Page) on Tue, Feb 26, 13 at 0:33
| Forget, Pat Austin - in my hot climate (Adelaide, South Australia) the flowers won't last even one day. Tamora is only marginally better in a hot climate and it is very thorny. Ambridge Rose is a better option particularly if it can get some protection from the sun. |
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| You might give the Austin rose, Evelyn, a try. I have several of this rose, and it does pretty well in our hot summers. Don't bother with Abbay de Cluny ( Romantica with the color of Just Joey). Its blooms are instant shrivelers in the hot summer. Diane |
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| I just can't say enough about Just Joey. Not English, but stunning, prolific, and great in extreme heat.
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- Posted by orchidtrader z7 ok (pegasusdgm@gmail.com) on Tue, Feb 26, 13 at 9:43
| Wow just Joey looks great and I will order some of them . I have heard lots of good things about that rose. Now I need to find a climber. orchidtrader |
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- Posted by ken-n.ga.mts 7a/7b (My Page) on Tue, Feb 26, 13 at 12:01
| For a climber, take a good look at Westerland. |
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| One of the best roses for a hot and dry climate is Carding Mill. I've "enabled" several people to try this rose and they seem very pleased with it. For me it bloomed a lot, faded very little in the heat, and it's a very attractive and carefree rose. The only reason I don't still have it is that I have a cool color scheme and Carding Mill was the wrong color. For the color scheme you describe this rose sounds perfect. Ingrid |
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| For a climber, take another look at 'Alchymist"... |
Here is a link that might be useful: http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=21.122368
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| You're getting recommendations from all over the weather spectrum. One thing that disappointed me early on was that some Austins which photography beautifully in England are washed out by the heat of a Tennessee summer. Our sunlight is just more intense although English days are longer. I like the Crown P Marg colors; mine is where it gets full morning sun until about 2pm and then it gets late afternoon sun as well. The one rose that I've seen thrive in Houston in summer was Medallion; it has also grown well for me here. You really need local knowledge for ross that can make you happy through your summers. In fall, a lot of the roses are far more forgiving and will please you mightily; you'll almost forget how they disappointed in summer. |
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- Posted by lola-lemon none (My Page) on Tue, Feb 26, 13 at 15:53
| As far as weather concerns, Polka, Buff Beauty and Tamora all can do well in hot climates. |
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- Posted by orchidtrader z7 ok (pegasusdgm@gmail.com) on Tue, Feb 26, 13 at 19:35
| I have an old contact from the rose club from years ago when I was growing roses but he likes minfloras and minis, Were I live in Oklahoma we have a climate similar to Texas but not the humid south eastern part and not the dry western part but almost at the dividing line in the center. I will take a look at the the ones people have recomended. Thank you everybody !!!! |
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- Posted by orchidtrader z7 ok (pegasusdgm@gmail.com) on Tue, Feb 26, 13 at 19:43
| Buff Beauty I had thought about but I am unsure of the color ? is it yellow or apricot ? I have seen pics of it both colors. |
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| I tried 2 Summer Songs - they were long skinny caned things then died. I adored the color...called David Austin roses to see what I did wrong. Turns out - nothing. They dont grow well outside of England, hence, this rose is not sold here. Love Pat Austins color but she drooped and blooms shattered quickly, I wont replace. Highly recommend Carding Mill. I just picked up my DA order today from their store in Tyler - added another Carding Mill. I am growing Lady Emma, Cr. Princess Margareta, Lady of Shallot but cant comment on them as they are just leafing out this year. Another fabulous apricot climber is the noisette Crepuscule. Just bought 2 today at Chamblees....this is a marvelous rose that everyone should grow! One of my favorites! I love the floribunda Fragrant Apricot. I am gathering a collection of apricots, my favorite rose color - most are fairly new so cant comment on them yet. I also grow Pegasus - blooms are gorgeous when they come but its not a prolific bloomer - but like it enough to keep it and enjoy the few blooms I get. |
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- Posted by daisyincrete (My Page) on Wed, Feb 27, 13 at 0:46
 Here is Lady Emma Hamilton at the end of January. I agree that Pat Austin hates hot sun.
Pat Austin under her large sunshade. |
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- Posted by orchidtrader z7 ok (pegasusdgm@gmail.com) on Wed, Feb 27, 13 at 7:19
| alameda Thanks for the info I will check out Carding Mill and I had already looked at Crepuscule but I thought it might get to big where I wanted to plant it but I will double check on it. Daisy Wow what some beautiful roses ! Thanks for sharing ! Now growing Pat in a cont might just work for another spot I have that receives more shade. You probally are lot hotter and drier than we are here so it should be ok. Thank you both for your help ! |
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- Posted by lola-lemon none (My Page) on Wed, Feb 27, 13 at 12:15
| I agree that Buff Beauty can be variable in color. I just bought it-- and had noticed that some pictures show it yellow (seems older BIG plants?) and others show it apricot... and sometimes fading to buff. Did you see this earlier thread? The Apricot/Orange colored rose has actually been a popular topic this past year. If you google it- you'll find atleast 3 or 4 threads. Anyway- There's a couple of good suggestions in here you might like: |
Here is a link that might be useful: suggestions for orange climbers (Gardenweb)
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- Posted by orchidtrader z7 ok (pegasusdgm@gmail.com) on Wed, Feb 27, 13 at 17:55
| Thank you I will check it out. I see that term buff used alot and I guess I am not sure what buff color is ? |
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- Posted by lola-lemon (My Page) on Wed, Feb 27, 13 at 18:12
| Oh wow-- I just looked up the color buff on a google search and it is quite a varied tone. .... What i meant when I said that was a pale skin toned color. In the buff, so to speak. ....as they say~ A picture is worth a thousand words. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Help me find-- Search roses
This post was edited by lola-lemon on Wed, Feb 27, 13 at 18:14
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| I had Abeye de Cluny in CA. By accident I put it in a very favorable spot, east exposure with afternoon shade and it performed very well. Rebloom was almost constant, the bush grew to a shrub about 5-6' tall with no need for support, and not much water was needed. The flowers are a unique shape and color; you either love them or can't stand them. They have very thin petals, so won't tolerate rain or the bright sun of afternoon. I also second the recommendation of Polka, an absolutely stunning rose in warm climates and you might want to take a look at Radio Times. I think I read here on GW that it is not so disease prone in the Midwest as in other places. It is one of the most beautiful of Austin's introductions, IMHO, but does require TLC. Polka you can plant and forget after the first season. |
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- Posted by daisyincrete 10? (My Page) on Thu, Feb 28, 13 at 0:37
| It seems that Buff Beauty's colour also changes depending on which colours it is next to. I only have one Buff Beauty. I throws it's sprays of blooms into neighbouring plants. Here it is with Cotinus coggyria Royal Purple.
Here it is with Aster x frikartii Monch.
They look like different roses. |
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- Posted by orchidtrader z7 ok (pegasusdgm@gmail.com) on Thu, Feb 28, 13 at 7:22
| Thanks Inastarana I will take a look at those and i do like Polka. lola-lemon Hey well all have own thoughts on shades of colors. LOL I am not good with them either. I have seen that term buff used in roses like buff orange , buff apricot and buff yellow. Not certain what they where refering to. Daisy Thanks for the photos . It hard to believe that is the same plant . I did call one of the rose growers yesterday and asked about Buff beauty and he said that that rose can be apricot to buff to straw yellow depending on amount of sun soil conditions ect.... |
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| We were all set to have our garden filmed for a gardenweb video when we were told that unless we could say nice things about sponsor Miracle Gro we wouldn't be filmed. We're totally organic, so that was that. Doesn't seem right somehow... |
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| Hi, I bough a Tamora bareroot from Pickering, last year. I know you asked for English roses, but Rosemary Harkness is another beautiful orange rose |
Here is a link that might be useful: Rosemary Harkness Hybrid Tea
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- Posted by orchidtrader z7 ok (pegasusdgm@gmail.com) on Fri, Mar 1, 13 at 17:50
| Thanks true-blue I will look it up and see. While doing some research the other day I ran across this article on a beautiful orange rose tested against an David Austin Rose. http://pieceofeden.blogspot.com/2010/08/louise-clements-vs-lady-emma-h amilton.html |
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- Posted by lola-lemon none (My Page) on Fri, Mar 1, 13 at 21:04
| I loooovvvve Lady Emma. I think she is divine. Great fragrance too. Did you know that blog (Piece of Eden) is written by a longtime member of this forum? Hoovb. |
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- Posted by orchidtrader z7 ok (pegasusdgm@gmail.com) on Sat, Mar 2, 13 at 8:27
| Thanks but I did not know that about the author. I saw some others out there to read by her on the same site. |
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| Thanks for the article, orchidtrader. Just a precision. Rosemary Harkness had 2 flushes, Tamora had a short break, but was constantly in bloom. When I was in orange/apricot rose search I came upon two roses, one is Westerland, a climbing, fragrant and recurrent rose. Another one, which I found really beautifully but unfortunately not very fragrant is a miniature climbing rose called work of art. Not an Austin though. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Work of Art
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- Posted by orchidtrader z7 ok (pegasusdgm@gmail.com) on Tue, Mar 5, 13 at 16:26
| Thanks true-blue . I have been looking for work of art for quite a few years now and have never found it available. |
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| Most welcome. They have it at Rogue Valley Roses. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Work of Art at Rogue Valley
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