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alameda 8 - East Texas (
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Fri, Mar 15, 13 at 10:27
| I have just had a small island connected to a small pond fenced off so my horses cant get to it, and plan to plant many different things there especially old garden roses. I have gotten really interested in the noisettes/tea-noisettes, have a few and love them and want more. I read that Mrs. Woods Lavender Pink Noisette/Mt. Vernon Purple blooms once then perhaps sporadically. I would like ones that bloom as well as Blush and Nachitoches Noisette. I have several coming from Vintage, and have in small pots Catos Cluster, Lingo Musk. I would like more information about these beautiful roses as to which ones are the best bloomers. Would love to see any photos too....Thanks!
Judith |
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| Does your island have a tree on it? If so, I would recommend Madame Alfred Carriere, which here grows 20 feet up trees, and blooms 10-11 months of the year. Jackie |
RE: Best Blooming Noisettes/Tea-Noisettes?
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| MAC would likely be good for you, in your warm climate. For US, it mildews. :-( WE do better with Lamarque, which is also great in at least some parts of TX (witness the "Flores St. House Eater").:
http://www.ph-rose-gardens.com/rr_floresstreethouseeater.htm Crepuscule should love your conditions.
Reve d'Or is a wonderful rose For us, Mrs. Woods Lavender Pink Noisette has been disappointing -- but if dealing with Vintage, look for "Pilarcitos." And pretty much all of the cluster-flowering pinky-white Noisettes (sports/seedlings of 'Blush Noisette') are terrific bloomers (tho they do need deadheading). Jeri |
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- Posted by alameda 8 - East Texas (My Page) on
Fri, Mar 15, 13 at 13:16
It has several lovely trees on it; oaks, some small pines and I am going to plant some willow trees and bald cypress - I wil get a photo of it but have been having problems with Photobucket in transferring the photo from there to here - they changed the format and I cant figure how to copy the photo and paste it here....will keep trying. There are many good places to plant - have found a low spot under some pines for Formosa azaleas, a sunny corner for old garden roses, there is a fence where horses cant reach that can have climbers, and the cattle panel going across the water [so horses cant get to island] would be great for climbers. There is sun and shade on it, and I am going to get the plumbers out next week to put in a water spigot on the island so it will be eaiser to water [can tie in from existing spigot I water horses with not far away]. Going to an antique place in a town close to here that has old gates - there is a spillway that I can take the golf cart across - want a rustic feel to it - cedar posts for an arbor. I am really excited about this project - have wanted to do this for a long time. Had the pond dug out in the fall - it was just a little area where water wanted to collect but dried up in summer. Water coming from 2 directions made a natural island. I plan to put adirondak chairs, we can build fires in the fall, put tiki torches in summer, grill......I have great plans! I will get a photo this afternoon and try to post from Photobucket. If anyone can tell me how to do this, I would appreciate it!
Judith |
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- Posted by seil z6b MI (My Page) on
Fri, Mar 15, 13 at 20:56
| I wish you good luck with Photobucket, Judith. It's totally messed up now. They seem to be more interested in social media than photo storage or forum posting. I have figured out that if I click on the photo I want and let it come up on the right side down about half way there is a menu that says "links" and I've been able to find the httm code there. It's way more tedious than it used to be but it did work for me. |
RE: Best Blooming Noisettes/Tea-Noisettes?
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| Here is a photo of the pond - gate will be to the right. Hope this works.... 
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RE: Best Blooming Noisettes/Tea-Noisettes?
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Oh great! I figured out Photobucket! The first photo shows the pond, island and the gate will be on the right. There is good light and several interesting places to plant. This is obviously a blank slate so I can start from scratch and start planting as soon as I get a permanent gate up and the new water line/spigot on the island. I have some cleaning up to do first but I picture an area blooming with lots of old garden roses, willow trees, louisiana iris, a few azaleas. Also want to put some koi in the pond. My boyfriend wants to put in perch.....Dont care about the fish - would just love to have lots of roses growing here! I am open to suggestions!
Judith This pho to shows the little inlet that flows into the pond. |
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Mrs. Woods Lavender Pink has been a very vigourous bloomer for us. We have two of these roses, great disease resistance also. Good Luck and the best to you,
Cydney |
Here is a link that might be useful: The Old Garden Rose Blog
This post was edited by ladyg8r1 on Sun, Mar 17, 13 at 11:48
RE: Best Blooming Noisettes/Tea-Noisettes?
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| I have Mrs. Woods Lavender Pink Noisette trained up a small (20 ft) tree, and it is climbing about 10' up now, haven't seen much bloom; but we shall see. I did this not knowing any better, this rose was a "freeby" and did this just for fun. The tree just "showed up" in my wide flowerbed years ago, is covered with white blooms in spring, have NO idea what it is... |
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| I have crepescule growing up a tree. It blooms very wellin the spring, before the tree leafs out. Even in hot muggy Georgia, it does not black spot. Reve d'or is another that is great for hot humid climates. |
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| The best tea x noisettes for quick rebloom at my place are: crepuscle, Manchester guardian angel and Pleasant hill cemetery. These three have been continual bloomers from March through Dec and can take the heat. |
RE: Best Blooming Noisettes/Tea-Noisettes?
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| That's a beautiful spot Judith. Alister Stella Grey has the best bloom for me. I could see you growing Manchester Guardian Angel up one of those trees. She can take a little shade. |
RE: Best Blooming Noisettes/Tea-Noisettes?
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- Posted by alameda 8 - East Texas (My Page) on
Sat, Mar 16, 13 at 11:03
| The site looks pretty plain right now....my miniature horses have had access to the island and keep it picked clean even though they have a huge pasture to go into. I have had visions of doing this for the 19 years I have lived here, so this is really going to be fun! Not to mention having room for more roses!! I am going Sunday to a really great antique place that has old ironwork and am hoping to find a rusted looking lovely gate to put at the entrance. Crepuscule is probably my very favorite rose......so I plan to have that one for sure. The noisettes I have other than Crepuscule are Blush and Natchitoches Noisette. A friend has a gorgeous Blush Noisette that is in a bush form and is arching and graceful - other than climbers, that is a look I want. I have Pleasant Hill Cemetery on order and now plan to get Manchester Guardian Angel. I want a soft pastel look [lighter colors show up better at night], no reds. Mme. Berkeley is one I really love for its continual soft blooms. But the noisettes seem like they would be graceful and sway in the breeze and bloom alot so plan to concentrate on them at first. I plan to make a trip to Chamblees, which is 2 hours from me, and they have Allister Stella Gray. I have a Champneys Pink Cluster - also thought about that one. I want to get the Swamp Rose when I got to the Antique Rose Emporium in April and have Raubritter on order, which I understand would be good near the water. There is plenty of room and I want to do a variety of noisettes, so welcome the suggestions! When I get some things planted, I will post other photos. Thanks!
Judith |
RE: Best Blooming Noisettes/Tea-Noisettes?
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| That's a beautiful setting, Judith. All good suggestions. I had Natchitoches Noisette early on. I was going to be a nice fountain-y thing. Those were my newbie days, and I took it out. I sort of regret it, but I wouldn't have had room for it.It has huge clusters/candelabras of pink flowers. Have fun with your new garden. You must get Raubritter and call the garden the Montisfont of East Texas. Sherry |
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