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A good rose to train on a pillar

Posted by teka2rjleffel z10FL (My Page) on
Tue, Mar 19, 13 at 18:08

I need a rose that is disease resistant in humidity. I prefer yellow or apricot but am open to any color as long as it has flexible canes that I can wrap around a pillar. Thornless would be a plus.


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RE: A good rose to train on a pillar

How about Rosa banksiae, commonly called Lady Banks rose?


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RE: A good rose to train on a pillar

She doesn't bloom here very well.


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My apologies, I forgot to add a key criteria. I want a repeat bloomer, the more repeat the better. I have too little real estate for a rose that blooms only once. If I ever get some good land I will put in some once bloomers because there are some gorgeous ones.


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RE: A good rose to train on a pillar

The only thornless apricot rose I grow is Crepuscule, and I've had it so long I can't remember if it was limber enough to wrap around a pillar when it was young. I know it's supposed to get huge but my three on their own roots have been very, very slow to build to any size. I love this rose, though.


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RE: A good rose to train on a pillar

I have no idea how this rose will do in your climate, but Golden Showers is great pillar rose here.


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Florida Rose, I have a Crepescule as a pillar and it is great. The only problem is that it is 4 years old, healthy, growing but no blooms. I'm not sure I want another one.
Jaspermplants, very pretty, thanks for the suggestion.


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RE: A good rose to train on a pillar

Perle d'Or or Madame Berard. Dunno how Gloire de Dijon would suit Florida but some of the tea noisettes may have possibilities.
I suspect the wichurana hybrids might require a tad more winter chill than you can manage but, as far as flexibility and general health, a couple of the barbier hybrids (Leontine Gervaise, Auguste Gervaise or even Albertine) maybe?
Obvs, I haven't the foggiest what might be good for Florida.....but knowing nothing has never stopped me from sounding off before.....


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Teka, I'm very surprised it doesn't bloom for you. Mine blooms beautifully in flushes, but I will say repeat is not as quickly as others. How about Reve d'Or? It's beautiful also, but doesn't get as covered in blooms as Crepuscule, at least for me.


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RE: A good rose to train on a pillar

Campenula, I can relate. Thanks for the ideas. I will check them out.
Florida Rose. I know I hear that from others. I am OK with flushes. This rose has produced 1 bloom in 4 years. It is healthy and putting out new growth continually. But my patience is running thin, not that I ever had much. I am hopeful that when it does bloom it will be wonderful. Then I will pat myself on the back for my patience.


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Have you tried liquid fertilizers? I give mine a dose of 20-20-20 several times a year. I put a tablespoon of the powder concentrate in my hand and throw it at the rose, then water in well. I've never burned one doing this.


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I've had huge problems with thrips, 11 months, no break. I was told the only way to get rid of them is go organic then the beneficials will come. It has really worked well. But that eliminates all chemical fertilizers. Maybe a heavy dose of liquid fish fertilizer.


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I am organic other than the liquid several times a year. I've only had thrips once on Elina. Have not had them since. I use mostly horse manure, alfalfa and cotton seed meal (smells to high heaven when you wet it), but it seems to be discouraging my scourge of armadillos as they are sensitive to strong smells.


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RE: A good rose to train on a pillar

How about Marechal Niel? It's a lovely, fragrant yellow and thrives in heat, but it isn't thornless. Not so good if it has RMV, so if you could get one from Malcolm Manners at Florida Southern College that would avoid the RMV issue. Also at FSC they graft onto Fortuniana, and on Fortuniana I've read this rose can get pretty big.

Melissa


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RE: A good rose to train on a pillar

Florida rose, which brand of liquid do you use?
Tessiess, Marechal Niel is very pretty. Thornless isn't a necessity, it would just be nice. FSC is on the other side of the state from me. I'd love to go to their sale one day.


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I use a brand sold by our local bulk fertilizer company. It's much cheaper than miracle grow. I buy it in a 20 pound bag,though it does come smaller.


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I love my Golden Showers, it's one of my remaining $5 body bags. I've had it over 10 years. I grow it up the side of my porch. It's usually one of the first to bloom. It does get blackspot, but I spray. It's a bit thorny. However, when it's in bloom, it scents up the porch with a sweet honey scent. Very nice.


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RE: A good rose to train on a pillar

I've had good luck training Zephirine Drouhin on a pillar. It's very fragrant and thornless, and does repeat. It is prone to black spot, but tends to recover well from it in my area (North Texas).


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