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| As a gift to someone who would enjoy a rose, but who is not especially a gardener, I'm looking for suggestions. This is a humid summer climate with mostly zone 6a winters, and perhaps occasionally a more serious cold spell that feels like zone 5b. The rose will get watered and fertilized. It will not be sprayed, so it has to be very disease resistant. It probably will not get reliable winter protection. On the other hand, planted close to the house it will get some radiated heat from the foundation. Repeat bloom would be good, given that it will be planted in a prominent place. It should not quickly outgrow its spot, so nothing especially big. No climbers or octopus shrubs. The future owner would be willing to cut out dead wood and do a light shaping, but would not be into serious pruning. The rose does not have to be old, though that would be a bonus, and I do not have any color restrictions. Here in California I might choose a nice polyantha or perhaps a modern shrub for such a situation, but I no longer know what does well in Pennsylvania. It would be nice to get something a bit more interesting than the Knockout roses. Suggestions, please? Rosefolly |
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| I am just a beginning rose gardener, a few years in, but if you are looking for suggestions for old roses that grow well here in PA, you may wish to look at the Wyck house gardens: http://www.wyck.org/#!__gardens This garden grows within the Philadelphia city limits but in a side neighborhood that is not as tightly packed. We were just rezoned to 7a, so a little different than you are looking at but but you may still get some inspiration from their plants. Wyck is on my mind today. I am going to the Philadelphia Flower Show today and Elizabeth Belk, who is the Horticulturist there is giving a presentation called called "Old Roses and Fragrance". I just posted their link on the other board actually, in my post about the flower show, but I think you may find it interesting to look at given the selection you are making as a gift. Maybe it could be helpful for some ideas. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Wyck Rose Garden
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| In such a spot in my zone, I'd plant either Austin's Pretty Jessica or the polyantha Mystic Beauty from Roses Unlimited (nearly identical to Souvenir de la Malmaison). Disease -resistant (BS) here--can't say for sure in Pennsylvania. You'll have to ask others in you region. Kate |
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| Merlcat, I have never been to the Wyck Garden. I should put it on my list for a visit back east! Kate, I myself live in California, so I'm hoping that someone from the mid-Altantic region, or even Ohio, will speak up. This garden is located in western Pennsylvania. I keep looking at the polyanthas. Does anyone know how Little White Pet would do in that part of the world? Rosefolly |
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| Wow--I need to slow down when I'm typing--I collapsed together two different categories into one category above. So let me try again. In my Zone 6, I would plant one of these in that spot: Austin's Pretty Jessica, the Bourbon Mystic Beauty (or Souvenir de la Malmaison), or the polyantha The Fairy. There--that makes better sense! All are disease-resistant here--but as Rosefolly notes, we need someone from Pennsylvania to step up and vouch for them in that region. Kate |
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| White Pet stays clean for most of the season, but gets anthracnose in August. It is 3' x 3'. For an old garden rose, Marchesa Boccella may fit the bill, but some years mine gets a bit ratty by the end of the season. 5' x 3' I do recommend the Kordes "Fairy Tale" roses (see Palatine's site, a couple of other vendors carry them). Caramel Fairy Tale and Floral Fairy Tale both retained all leaves throughout the season without treatment for blackspot. Size varies, but they take well to shaping. |
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| Thanks -- I have ordered White Pet for delivery in May. We don't seem to have very many people posting from Pennsylvania. I seem to remember some in the past, but that was some years back. Rosefolly |
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- Posted by zeffyrose_pa6b7 6b7 (My Page) on Mon, Mar 11, 13 at 12:17
| Hi ------remember me??---I'm from Pa-- I'm happy to see you have already ordered a rose---sorry to say that due to more problems with my back I haven't been on the Forum much lately----sitting is very painful --hopefully the next shot will help I do enjoy checking on the Forum when pain permits--- Good luck with your rose choice-----please keep us posted with its progress. Florence |
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| White pet didn't survive here. It never got more than 2' tall and struggled. Hope it does better for your friend. I would go with Marie Pavie or Marchessa Bochella instead. |
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| Ghislaine de Feligonde is nearly thornless, has big clusters of delicate yellow flowers, and grows in zones 5-9. |
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