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Tue, Apr 1, 14 at 11:34
| Thanks for your comment about Schmidt's Smooth Yellow on HMF - you thought it looked like Leonie Lamesch. That is so interesting, because Kim Rupert thinks it might be Eugenie Lamesch, a "lost" rose which was also hybridized by Peter Lambert right around the same time. It certainly looks like all of the old paintings of that rose (we have not found any photos). I grew SSY and LL right next to each other in a large pot, and everything looked the same except of course the color, and the fact that SSY has no thorns whatsoever. There is a plant of SSY growing at the SJHRG, and also at the Historic Cemetery rose garden in Sacramento. Kim also thinks SSY might be the same as Belmont Yellow, a found rose. We are waiting for some folks who have that one to post pics (after their plantings thaw out). Here is a pic of my entire mature bush of SSY which I took a couple of days ago. Jackie |
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- Posted by jill_perry z9 CA (My Page) on Sat, Apr 5, 14 at 18:33
| The one at the Heritage is still in the nursery, but I took a picture of it last week and posted it on our Facebook page. If you have a FB account you can use this link to see it: http://on.fb.me/PGfFDD |
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- Posted by Kippy-the-Hippy 10 Sunset 24 (My Page) on Mon, Jun 30, 14 at 18:59
| While searching other roses I found this thread. How is your Smooth Yellow doing? Is anyone going to propagate it? I sure hope so |
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| Here's a photo of blooms (not under ideal conditions). No, it is not 'Leonie Lamesch,' but yes, the foliage sure does look as though it might be a Lambertiana -- so I can buy the 'Eugenie Lamesch' I.D. |
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- Posted by Kippy-the-Hippy 10 Sunset 24 (My Page) on Mon, Jun 30, 14 at 21:18
| Wow look at all those buds!! What a treasure to find in your garden. I sure hope Clay was busy with those canes. |
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| Hi Jackie, I hope you are posting that full bush shot to Help Me Find! I sent cuttings of Schmidt's Smooth Yellow to Malcolm Manners. He thought RU might be wiling to send him samples of Belmont Yellow to compare them side by side. Hopefully one of his students will have time to include them in their DNA tests this summer for class credit. I know I gave him far too many suggestions (and sent far too much material) for them to use all of them. I've also budded some Schmidt's Smooth Yellow to see what they look like grown the way they were "supposed" to be grown. When these things were introduced, roses were primarily budded in colder climates, such as Germany where Peter Lambert lived and bred roses.Kim |
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- Posted by jacqueline3 9CA (My Page) on Tue, Jul 1, 14 at 14:02
| Following is my favorite picture comparison of my bush and the old pictures of Eugenie Lamesch (my apologies to those of you for whom this is redundant, but I thought others might find it interesting. The buds are flat topped and have red on them most of the time (the buds on my LL are also mostly flat topped). Jackie |
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- Posted by jacqueline3 9CA (My Page) on Tue, Jul 1, 14 at 14:04
| Compare this picture of a bud from my plant to the bud on the upper left side of the old painting above. Neat, huh? Jackie |
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- Posted by jacqueline3 9CA (My Page) on Tue, Jul 1, 14 at 14:06
| Last pic for now - showing buds still on the bush with the red coloring (the blooms open 100% clear yellow and fade to almost white). Jackie |
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- Posted by Kippy-the-Hippy 10 Sunset 24 (My Page) on Tue, Jul 1, 14 at 14:07
| I think it is so interesting that the pictures we have from the past are from cigarettes. I love your rose Jackie, I hope it is what you all think it is. |
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- Posted by poorbutroserich Nashville 7a (My Page) on Tue, Jul 1, 14 at 18:47
| If any study plants need a foster home my door is open! Gorgeous! Susan |
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