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Roses with Eugene de Beauharnais' growth habit

Posted by musaboru Inland Calif. (My Page) on
Thu, Apr 10, 14 at 15:36

Hello all,

Eugene de Beauharnais has become a favorite of mine for I have observed it is floriferous in small pots and not to mention the smell is divine. The flowers he produces may not be perfect all the time but his miniature stature and propensity to bloom often are characteristics that I value greatly, regardess of his notoriety for poor disease resistance. I actually have yet to find any rust or blackspot on him in the 2 or 3 years Ive had him.

I am looking to expand my OGR collection with other cultivars that can be subjected to living in small pots on the balcony and still bloom often. Would you please recommend me cultivars with a similar growth habit?

musa~


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RE: Roses with Eugene de Beauharnais' growth habit

Musa, you might enjoy the polyantha Marie Pavie. She's very fragrant and a blush white color that would compliment Eugene. Or Souvenir de la Malmaison. Lovely Bourbon in the same color range as Marie. Very fragrant. Hermosa is a lovely lavender pink to silvery pink. She's a China/Bourbon with very, very light fragrance but charming blooms. Carol


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  • Posted by AquaEyes 7 New Brunswick, NJ (My Page) on
    Thu, Apr 10, 14 at 17:20

I'm assembling a little collection of fragrant crimson or dark-red Hybrid Teas to be grown as pampered pot-pets. Three smaller ones I have which you might like to try are 'Chateau de Clos Vougeot', 'Night' (aka 'Lady Sackville'), and 'Nigrette' (which is the same rose sold by some nurseries as 'Louis XIV'). I was actually going to keep 'Eugene de Beauharnais' as a pot-pet as well, but decided to give it a go in the ground near my front steps, where I can easily give it whatever extra care it needs. I would also include 'Barcelona' (which is the same rose sold by some nurseries as 'Francis Dubreuil'), but I've seen pics of some planted in the ground which grew larger.

:-)

~Christopher


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The small Bourbon Mme. Dore should be ideal for pot culture. Even in the ground after some years I don't think it's quite reached two feet, and the flowers are beautiful. The only problem is finding it; I believe I got mine from the unfortunately no longer operating Vintage nursery.

Potter and Moore, an old Austin that Rogue Valley offers, should be a good pot plant also, and the flowers are luscious. Pretty Jessica also stays small and seems disease-free, but I'm not sure at this point whether it flowers enough in a hot and dry climate. Sophy's Rose has not grown large for me but does have large flowers. It has very little scent, however.

Ingrid


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Yikes, I thought I had seen Mme. Dore available recently at a nursery I hadn't heard of before, but -upon double checking- Mme. Knorr. was the rose I had seen available. Wish you could delete posts!

Jay

This post was edited by ArbutusOmnedo on Thu, Apr 10, 14 at 18:09


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  • Posted by AquaEyes 7 New Brunswick, NJ (My Page) on
    Thu, Apr 10, 14 at 19:15

Rose Petals Nursery and Roses Unlimited have 'Mme Dore' in their inventories. However, I, too, got mine from Vintage Gardens. Mine is planted in the ground.

:-)

~Christopher


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  • Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
    Thu, Apr 10, 14 at 21:05

'Golden Buddha', though not an OGR, is a very nice rose that stays small even in Southern California. It blooms very consistently.

'Gruss an Aachen' and the pink form 'Pink Gruss an Aachen' aka 'Irene Watts' are also excellent roses that stay smaller in Southern California.

And of course Souvenir de la Malmaison.


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RE: Roses with Eugene de Beauharnais' growth habit

Musaboru, Viru Viraraghavan introduced two small-growing Teas, 'Aussie Sixer' and 'Dixie Beauty', that are ideal subjects for container culture. Both are available from Roses Unlimited. Another Tea that I prefer to grow as a container rose is 'Devoniensis' (the bush form). It's not a rapid grower and can be maintained in a relatively small container.

The very compact Bourbon 'Queen of Bedders' is especially good as a container rose. If I had to select a favorite variety for growing in a container, it would be difficult for me to choose between this one and 'Devoniensis'. The problem with QoB, though, is availability. Vintage was the only U.S. source, and I don't think it was ever available there except as a custom order.

BTW, it would be helpful to know what you mean by SMALL pots. My initial reaction to some of the posts above was that several of the varieties suggested are not really suitable for small pots. But what I think of as a "small" pot for roses is probably quite different from what others might have in mind.


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  • Posted by AquaEyes 7 New Brunswick, NJ (My Page) on
    Fri, Apr 11, 14 at 11:29

Good point about pot-size. When I think "small pot" for roses, I think something 12" or more in diameter across the top, and about the same depth.

:-)

~Christopher


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RE: Roses with Eugene de Beauharnais' growth habit

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. I really appreciate it. I will be going good through all suggestions one-by-one now.

The pot size I use here is about 2.5 gallons which may be shocking to some, but EdB blooms in flushes often there.
Christopher, I really adore that term pot pet, hah.


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R.U. Did not propagate Mme. Dore this year. Rose Petals Nursery seemed to be the only nursery trying to propagate it .

Lynn


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Musca, you might try Sweet Chariot. Not an OGR, it's a miniature. It's fragrant (it wafts), and it's suitable for pots, hanging baskets etc.

Here is a link that might be useful: Sweet Chariot rose


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