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Posted by
melissa_thefarm NItaly (
My Page) on
Tue, May 27, 14 at 3:35
This post was edited by melissa_thefarm on Tue, May 27, 14 at 23:46
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| Melissa, What happened to your post? I enjoyed reading about your ramblers. |
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| I deleted it, as I would have deleted the post if that were possible. Nobody seemed interested and I got embarassed at having talked so much. I'm glad you liked it. |
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| It's a pity you deleted it. It was a beautiful, imaginative, evocative text, where you managed to convey the beauty of your garden without a single image. I'm sorry I didn't comment. I didn't want to disturb the magic of your garden by some unimaginative blabber... |
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Please, please comment! I always have doubts when I submit an essay post, and in my blacker moods wonder whether I ought not to stop talking (and writing) altogether (I know this isn't a healthy thought). So positive feedback is welcome and helpful. I'm glad you enjoyed the post.
Melissa |
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| Always in doubt give it a second and third chance, before deleting it :-) I really did enjoy your post and I'm sure many others did. Who would not like a free trip through your secret garden of roses in Northern Italy, where there is a promise of profusion, fragrance and colour? |
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I, too, always enjoy your posts, Melissa (and, vicariously, your garden).
Laura |
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| I'm so sorry that you felt bad. When I first read your post I wasn't ready to reply. I thought I'd wait til the next day. I thought what you said about the ramblers making the garden rosier was so right. Climbers add another layer to the tapestry. My garden wouldn't be the same without them. It sounds like your are doing well. That's exciting. Please don't worry if you don't hear from people right away or if a particular person seems to be ignoring you. There's usually some reason that has nothing to do with them not caring about what you've said. I think sometimes some people(like me) are a bit at a loss to answer a long post. That doesn't mean it wasn't well said and appreciated. I'll try my best in the future to at least say "Well said. I'll say more tomorrow" |
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| I enjoyed your post as well. I didn't reply because...well, I had nothing to add. It was evocative though. And, it had me thinking about what "rosey" means to me. I think more along the lines of large rounded shrubs covered in big blooms like in a children's story. That said, I love rambling roses. That's why I put up with mermaid (I guess that's a very vigorous climber). So much going for really big roses--beauty, awesomeness, habitat for birds etc. I'll chime in more when I enjoy a post. I get tongue tied at times and the words just don't flow! Keep on posting! Anne |
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| Would you please re-post the photos if it's not too much trouble? I am new here, and I love ramblers. I'd love to learn from everyone here. This year I added 4 Peggy Martins, 2 Sally Holmes, 1 cl Pinky. I have Blushing Lucy, Darlow's Enigma, mme Alfred Carriere and cl Cecile Brunner for 6-7 years. Blushing Lucy and cl Cecile Brunner don't re-bloom for me in zone 6a, and mme Alfred Carriere and cl Cecile Brunner die back a lot in the winter-almost to the ground. I am always looking for ramblers re-bloom through out the season, and winter hardy. So far Darlow's Enigma is the only one blooms 24/7. |
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Thanks for all the encouragement, folks: it means a lot to me. My morale was down in the dungeons when I deleted the post or I wouldn't have done it.
Summerseve, I'm glad you've discovered the world of ramblers and climbers, though I'm not sure how much help I can offer. I can't bring my original post back, by the way, and it had no photos, which incidentally I very rarely post.
I think your question merits a thread of its own: would you like to start one? You touch on two of the issues with ramblers and big climbers: reflowering and cold hardiness. Since I live in Zone 8 I don't have to worry about a rose's being tender and am not knowledgeable on the subject. My impression is that the following are true: very big roses and rambler types in general are once-flowering; repeat-flowering roses, especially the larger kinds, are usually more or less tender. I don't know much about more recent efforts to create cold-hardy, repeat-blooming roses. Historically 'New Dawn' was, I think, one of the first roses that combined these qualities, and it has been an important parent.
Melissa |
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| I hadn't checked in to the forum for a few days and it was disappointing to read only "Nothing"! I thought you had been interrupted while writing and couldn't finish just then. Please post again! |
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| Whaaaa? I was looking forward to re-reading it and it vanishes. I like to mull over your posts, Melissa. Taking the time to offer up such evocative and delicious images deserves making the effort to digest and respond with the same careful consideration rather than just dashing off a flip or glib reply. Never think we are not avidly devouring the next installment of La Dolce Vita. |
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| I love ramblers and feel sad that I missed your post--Is it possible to recall some of it ? Florence |
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Thanks Melissa! Growing roses in an ice hole is not easy, but I love it. :-) I grow roses for colors and fragrance, growing season is short here ( 6 months of winter), so I don't waste time on Tea roses. They're not my cup of tea. :-) I love roses that are blooming machines. I have three New Dawns, they don't re-bloom for some reason-three broken machines! This year I will try deadheading them. I am on the waiting list for Renae and Annie Laurie McDowell. Having issues with rabbits right now, they are going after some of my baby roses I just got this spring: Peggy Martin, cl Fairy, Carefree Beauty. Just set up a trap tonight under the moonlight. One way to make my garden rosier.
Summer |
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| Melissa, I am so sorry for not commenting after enjoying your thoughts on the garden. This has been such a horrible week here (Isla Vista) Coming and reading about gardens and roses has been the escape from the reality every time I turn on my computer. But I find that I am having a harder than average time at communicating what I mean. While I would love to see everyone's gardens, I think the ones that draw me the most are the ones that have the really big girls living in them. I need a really big place because I would love to have a bunch of them. I wish I could see pictures and imagine sitting and enjoying them. |
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| Hope you feel better. I would've read it if I'd known it was about ramblers! I don't usually read "essay" posts, mainly for lack of time,and just the fact that I come onto rose forums for mainly practical reasons(I feel I "waste" too much time on Internet anyway),but there are clearly lots of people who have a different attitude...best wishes, bart |
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| I am sorry I missed your post too. I would love to have heard about your rambling ladies. It's almost winter here, so I have to live vicariously through the spring posts of the northerners. |
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- Posted by vasue 7A Charlottesville (My Page) on
Fri, May 30, 14 at 10:07
Melissa, your strong bond to the natural world comes through loud & clear in all your posts. Straight from the heart & soul, you touch mine. Through the lens of your evocative musings, clearly see your expanse of earth & sky in the abundance nurtured by your stewardship. Your writing is straight on target, whatever your mood. A belated thank you for so generously sharing your thoughts & dreams, your wisdom through experience, your unique self. Find yourself a publisher. You're that good. Another Henry Mitchell. |
This post was edited by vasue on Fri, May 30, 14 at 10:10
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Thanks again for all the encouraging words. Life isn't always dolce here, any more than it is anywhere else. However, yesterday morning I mowed our little yard--enough grass to spread out a blanket for a nap or a picnic, and move about while hanging up the laundry--and the results make me happy every time I look around. The order of neatly cut grass, paved paths in the propagating beds, and various mostly rebar (that is, humble) structures, contrasted with the exuberance of roses, field poppies, nigella, box, lavender, and so on, is a study in satisfaction to the eye.
Summerseve, I hope you start a thread on cold-hardy ramblers and climbers: it's a subject I know little about, and I suspect a lot of the good varieties are of fairly recent date. We can talk about 'New Dawn' and rebloom then. 'Awakening', the double sport of 'New Dawn', has been satisfactory here recently.
I'm beginning to feel quite regretful and apologetic I ate my child. I can't get it back, but will continue to post, with all this support. Kippy, I'm sorry you had a terrible week: can you tell us what happened? I'm of the only too much is ever enough school of gardening myself, and share your fondness for really big roses. Big generous plants in general.
Melissa
P.S. Vasue, our posts crossed. I take appreciative note of your comments. |
This post was edited by melissa_thefarm on Fri, May 30, 14 at 10:13
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| Melissa, a week ago a mentally ill young man took the lives of his three roommates before driving through the college town of Isla Vista (UCSB) and killing 3 more, shooting or running over 13 others before taking his own life. The girls he killed died on the lawn of a sorority around the corner from the fraternity house I have spent several summers cleaning or converting. His favorite drive was apparently my street, I drove past him on the video. My kids eat at and frequent the streets he shot another young people It has been all too horrible and all too close |
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