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| I am looking at getting an own root Red Moss from Heirloom Roses, but wanted to see how they did for others in colder zones before I purchased one. Curious about growth rate for these guys as well. I believe i read they only bloom once. Any feedback/thoughts/pictures are much appreciated. :) |
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- Posted by harborrose 8-Puget Sound/PNW (My Page) on Thu, May 15, 14 at 12:28
| I am guessing you have seen the helpmefind entry on it and see that it is rated to 4b? I can't help much except to say I grow it. its growth pattern is kind of lanky; I put it in a peony cage to keep it from flopping over. It's shade tolerant here. I love the blooms, the mossing. It is also healthy here.
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| I have had 'Henri Martin' growing in a zone 4 garden for 20 years. It is definitely very hardy. It makes a thicket of wiry slim canes that flop over without support. I have one plant that is quite optomistically growing up a crabapple and I love to see the bright red flowers nodding in the tree. |
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- Posted by thegardenat902 Zone 5 (My Page) on Thu, May 15, 14 at 12:58
| Harborrose: Thanks for the reply. I actually just saw someone else post that site and had looked there but a few sites I was on last night said zone 6 so I wasn't super confident. I prefer to ask people who are actually growing it instead of just the zone recommendations, especially since some of them don't consider the cane hardiness. Thanks for the pictures! It's a really beautiful rose. |
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- Posted by thegardenat902 Zone 5 (My Page) on Thu, May 15, 14 at 13:02
| CapeRoses: Thanks for the reply! Glad to hear it's thriving in zone 4 for you! I've had some trouble with roses not being as hardy as I thought so I'm a bit on the paranoid side. I was kind of wanting one that was a little less formal shaped so I am thinking this one will be perfect! Thanks so much for your reply. That sounds lovely growing up a crabapple tree!! If you ever have pictures please share them :) |
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- Posted by thegardenat902 Zone 5 (My Page) on Thu, May 15, 14 at 13:05
| CapeRoses: One quick question for you. Is yours in full sun? |
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- Posted by harborrose 8-Puget Sound/PNW (My Page) on Thu, May 15, 14 at 13:16
| hi, 902, I understand what you mean about asking people; it is what makes these forums helpful  . I think of hmf as being more reliable than other sites because the administrators won't list a zone like 4 unless it is actually reported to be grown there. Pictures show it being grown in Quebec and Sweden, for example. But I totally understand what you mean; the internet is a swamp of information. And for what it's worth, mine is growing under a tree also and only gets perhaps three hours of afternoon sun. I expect over time it will grow up my tree too. :) Gean |
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- Posted by thegardenat902 Zone 5 (My Page) on Thu, May 15, 14 at 13:30
| Gean I just love this site! I feel like I'm draining people of information but there is so much reliable knowledge here and I love getting real feedback. So much better than spending what seems like hours going to different sites only to find unreliable info. That is great to know!! I am going to bookmark that site then! I would love to grow mine in part shade if I could. I have the perfect spot for it and it could get as big as it wanted there without having to worry! Hmmm. Decisions decisions!! |
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| Four hours of sun followed by dappled shade will be fine. It will, however, give you a shrub that is floppier than it would otherwise be, so a peony cage or similar device will help make a tidy plant out of it. 'Henri Martin' is certainly one of the best of the old Victorian Mosses and an excellent choice for any cold climate garden, IMO. |
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- Posted by thegardenat902 Zone 5 (My Page) on Thu, May 15, 14 at 14:29
| trospero - thanks for the info! I am so excited to hear that this location will work for it. Now I just have to see if my husband and I are strong enough to move the vintage water basin we have in it's spot that's filled with soil! :P I have some very pretty black movable fences that I could probably put around it as a cage to help keep it up, but I kind of think that floppier look on this rose will look beautiful. Thank you so much for your feedback! |
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- Posted by lavender_lass WA zone 4 (My Page) on Thu, May 15, 14 at 15:08
| I got an own-root Henri Martin from Nortland Rosarium and it's done very well in my zone 4 garden! It has a great fragrance :) Own root roses are usually pretty hardy and I would definitely recommend this one. Heirloom Roses is great, but I've had really good luck with Northland Rosarium...but I also live close enough to pick them up, rather than have them shipped. Celsiana has been another success, if you like old-fashioned roses. She's huge!
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- Posted by thegardenat902 Zone 5 (My Page) on Thu, May 15, 14 at 20:07
| Lavendar - thanks so much for your feedback!! I am glad you have had good luck with Heirloom Roses and Henri Martin. I am really excited to get mine. I got the spot in the garden for it all ready tonight! I peeked at the site you mentioned and they have so many beautiful old roses. I will have to take a look at them for future purchases. :) That's so nice that you can drive to them. I wish I could find a local place that sold something besides pink knock outs. I love them but it's all I can find here. Celsiana is gorgeous! I think old fashioned roses are now my new favorite flowers! |
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