It's very probable that they obtained Benny Lopez and Pulich Children from the Sacramento City Cemetery. They certainly saw those roses there. But they wouldn't have them ready to sell yet. Not enough time.

The Cemetery has given a number of rare cultivars to Dr. Manners, and I expect you folks on the East Coast will have an opportunity to get them before too long.

Jeri

Anita Clevenger from the Sacramento Cemetery posted on the rose forum recently about bringing Benny Lopez to Dr. Manners. Glad she also brought Pulich Children. Both are wonderful roses.

Diane

That is good news indeed that we also might get a crack at growing some of the wondrous CA found roses.

I take it the "Ethel Yount's White" was not found on the West Coast?

"Ethel Yount's White" was my grandmother's rose. It grew on her dairy farm in Clarion County, Pennsylvania, at least by the early 1930s. It is very similar to 'Semiplena', and may actually be that rose, except that in more than 20 years of growing them here in Lakeland, 'Semiplena' flowered most years, whereas we have never had a single flower on Ethel Yount's White. On the other hand, we've tried to distribute it far and wide to areas that get more winter chill, and it flowers well in climates that get a bit more winter than we.

Here is a link that might be useful: Photo of Ethel in NYC

That's a beautiful rose Malcolm. I plan to order it. I'm currently growing some other Albas like Sappho, Maxima, Blush Hip and Felicite Parmentier so hopefully my winter chill will be enough for it.

Diane

Ethel does look a lot like Semiplena in your pictures, Mr. Manners..

Maybe a sport or a seedling? I just ordered it. I need a new semiplena, the one I have now being not likely to recover from wabbit damage, so maybe I can grow them together.,