The flower is tiny, only about 1/2" across with a faint musky scent.

Hoping someone can identify so I can research size and growth habit. It was a sentimental purchase because it was from Miriam's garden and she was the person who introduced me to antique roses.

Thanks,
Diane

Trospero, this is pink. I thought Multiflora was white?!

Am surprised the Heritage Rose Group would be selling it if it was Multiflora.

Diane

The Bay Area group sold it to you. There is a huge difference. I sort of wish you'd shown it to Alice Flores.

HRG WAS selling roses, you know, out in the courtyard, Alice presiding.

So was Jill Perry, for the San Jose Heritage Rose Garden.
Either of those ladies would have been happy to look it over and maybe ID it for you.

For myself, I wouldn't know R. multiflora if it walked up and bit me on the posterior ... but I'm pretty sure it would have noticeably fringed stipules. Does this rose have those???

Take a look at the botanical drawing, at the link below. It's really detailed, and probably better than a photo. Look at all of the plant parts, and particularly note the stipule. That's the big Multiflora "tell."

It WAS the Bay Area group and I'm going to contact them about selling Multiflora. And yes, the stipules are very fringed. Just went outside to look.

Diane

The thing is, I don't think they have a clue what it is, and I doubt they realize why that matters.

Diane -- If you need an email address, email me, and I can provide it.

Jeri

This is the same multiflora that is a problem west of the rockies and is used as a root stock?

Kippy, yes I believe it is!

Diane

Do you also recommend that I don't plant it?

Diane

As far as I know, RRD isn't known to be in Europe. The last batch of bud wood I sent to The Netherlands and Germany went half successfully. The Netherlands permitted it entry. Germany took several weeks to return it out of fear it MAY contain RRD, even though California isn't known to foster the disease. Kim

Kim, I know "The Gift" and it's not that either. Will observe and if it mildews it goes bye bye.

Diane

It's a pity that multiflora is so problematic, because we had lots of wildlife living in that hedge, including families of ringneck pheasants. But our neighboring farmer was dismayed that multiflora seedlings kept coming up in his fields, so eventually my Dad had to remove all the plants. It was a huge job. ( Hmm, I remember thinking he was too old for that kind of manual labor, but I work just as hard and now I am about the same age he was when he did that task.) He removed all several hundred plants except, that is, for his favorite pink one, which to my dismay he stubbornly insisted on keeping.

And this was in the days before we knew to worry about RRD and the multiflora connection.

Folly

Kim, thank you for the info about RRD and Europe.

Folly, how many seemingly great ideas must be undone, laboriously and painfully? Your father's story is surely analagous to so many in all our lives. I hope his one pink multiflora didn't multiply and create a new generation for you deal with. Your phrase "to my dismay" sounds like you've walked through consequences....

Carol

Pardon my ignorance, now I need to read up on Multiflora and RRD. Yikes, that's the last thing I'd want in the garden. I didn't think it was in California???

Diane

:-/

~Christopher

The connection with rosette disease is simply that multiflora is the most common wild rose in the East and Midwest. If 'Peace' could take over vacant lots and spread through the woods, then 'Peace' would be the reservoir for rosette disease.

This plant may have special properties such as dwarfness. It could be a hybrid. However, species multiflora is not much in the garden. It only blooms for about two weeks out of the year.

I plan on observing it for a while and see what happens. If mildew or not remontant = not a keeper. At this point I'm running out of room.

Diane