I have:

Bermuda Spice
Roseville Noisette
Portland from Glendora
Huilito

And despite having no more space, I just bought:

Maggie
Sophie's Perpetual

Westside Road Cream Tea
Carnation
Romaggi Plot Bourbon (this compact little rose won't occupy much of the space you don't have)

Then there's "Creekside Manor Tea". I don't have it, but both of us have to pounce on it the first chance we get.

I also love Duchesse de Grammont. If you like Noisettes, this one is a beauty. I got mine from ARE.

Enjoy your new roses.

Jaxondel, I just looked at Romaggi Plot Bourbon for the first time seeing that you describe her as small. I had always assumed it was one of the long caned Bourbons. Quite amazing. It looks like "an average" of SDLM and Souv de St Anne's, somewhere in between the two as far as petal count. I'll have to rub my fingers on the stem below the flower and see if I smell pepper on SDLM as one of the photo-posters did. They don't say much about the rose on HMF. Could it be another SDLM sport?

Bellegallica, forget space and/or lack of it. Buying new roses is a way of life, so we'll just have to get used to it. I'm just ordering more from RU. It's what we do. I like what Jaxondel said: this compact little rose won't occupy much of the space you don't have. Sounds like we're all Alice living in Wonderland.

Sherry

As far as space goes, there are 2 or 3 non-found :-) roses that I'm kinda meh about. They might find new homes. And Maggie and Sophie are bands, so they won't take up much space for the first year or so. (Though I hear Maggie can big FAST.)

Sherry, I did have Romaggi Plot once. Now I'm wondering now why I gave it away! It is a short one, and the flowers are a nice shade of unfading pink. Those spicy-scented stems I'm starting to associate with the Bourbons--the short ones at least. SdlM and Mme Cornelissen have it, and so does Huilito.

Since you like Foundlings (I do, too!) I strongly recommend 'Le Pactole.' Long thought to be extinct, a struggling remnant of this rose was collected in a dirt parking lot in Sonoma, CA, by Fred Boutin. Figuring it was a touch little white Miniature, he collected it. Thought it might make a pretty little low hedge.

Imagine his surprise when it grew up to be a very buxom Tea Rose, and a heck of a bloomer. Can mildew until it gains maturity -- otherwise disease-free in my coastal climate. I love the shaggy, ribbon-like blooms that rather remind me of chrysanthemums.

(It's named for the river in Asia Minor where King Midas washed away the curse of the Golden Touch.)

Jeri
Coastal Ventura Co., SoCal

I like it a LOT, LOT, LOT. I think it's one Clay should propagate this year, because it appears to be as good in Ventura County as it is up in Sacramento.

If you should plant it, GIVE IT ROOM. It is a big Tea Rose. :-)

Jeri

You're right. HMF has no info on Dudley tea, and Googling it gives me lots of returns on Mrs. Dudley cross. Do you have any pictures or other info on it?

I love the clusters of round buds on Duchesse de Grammont.

Sherry

I will gladly add the rose to the HMF database, but could you also provide me with some plant characteristics ? Like bloom form, bloom cycle, fragrance, foliage and plant habit ? Also, if you know of a nursery selling the rose, I'd be happy to add them to the BUY FROM tab.

The only way we get any information about found roses is when it is provided by site users. You can send me an email and I'll be happy to follow through and add the rose.

Smiles,
Lyn

Ventura County's under Glassy Winged Sharpshooter quarantine. I don't know whether S.B. County is, or not.

Jeri

Rosefolly

Just for the record it's black spot resistant and I've never seen a mildew leaf on it. Mildew is not much of a problem here except occasionally on Duchesse de Brabant and Souv de la Mal..

The only nursery that lists it is Vintage. It would be a shame if this rose was lost as it almost once was.

The photos on page 1 of the Dudley Farm site are NOT the rose I bought. After looking through my information, I recalled the rose was named "Mother Dudley" not Dudley Tea.

Here is a picture from my garden:

Notice the very small leaves that look to me to have more of a China parentage than Tea but I really am just an amateur. Also notice the reddish color to the new growth. I think it's really pretty.

Here are a couple more pictures:

I don't know anything else about it other than it's been slow to take off and it does get some blackspot.

Jeri

I was talking on the phone to one of the former owners of Rose Petals Nursery. We were talking about less commonly grown roses and she told me she had a rooted cutting of what she called "Mother Dudley" that she had gotten from an old family farm near her place in FL. Of course I wanted it!

I don't know if the new owners of Rose Petals have this rose, I've never seen it on the website.

Would love to know what you find out. I'd also love to have it identified. It was "something" originally, it would be nice to know what that is.

Jeri

Sherry

I had ordered Zalud House Shingled Rasberry since it was on the Vintage list and I badly wanted it, but unfortunately they ran out, and I will always regret not having this rose.
I know Pam (mendocino rose) once said it was one of her most beautiful roses.

Ingrid

What was it you didn't like about Huilito? I had doubts about this one since no one seems to grow it or say anything about it. Just potted it up into a one gallon, so can't really say much about the plant. It does seem like it will be a free bloomer, and the flowers are a nice shade of non-fading pink, a bit darker and fuller than Romaggi Plot.

***** GREAT NEWS!!!
I heard from Cydney, and I AM going to get "Mother Dudley," a rose right up my alley. :-)

Jeri

Ingrid

There are half a dozen buds on it now about to open, so I will pay more attention to them, how they open, how long they last, size, etc.

Only disappointment so far has been the fragrance. Described as strong. I didn't smell much from the flower itself. But the foliage, especially the stems, is nicely fragrant with the usual spicy Bourbon scent. (Another similarity with Romaggi.) But unlike Romaggi, the canes are thin and twiggy, like a China. Romaggi's were stouter and stiffer.

Belle, speaking of balling, I have Arcadia Louisiana Tea. The first couple of years she bloomed beautifully. Then I moved her out of the shade. This is the second year after the move. She hasn't bloomed much, and when she has she balls. I'm wondering if she'll get back in the swing of things and improve. You'd think she'd be able to handle the humidity. I guess I'll wait and see.

Sherry

I think it's probably a candidate for removal. It could go somewhere inland, I think, and do fine. When it has opened, it was lovely.

Jeri

Another found rose, San Leandro Dark Red Hybrid Tea, so far seems to be a dark red that withstands the heat well. It is still a young plant, but I find the blooms very pleasing, very fragrant, and it repeats quickly.

If I was smart, I'd give it to my sister, in Fillmore, where it would be spectacular.

Jeri

Ingrid

It's fine if the plant is tall enough to look up into the flowers. But it's a drawback with the short ones. (IMHO, as they say.)

Along with "Arcadia Louisiana Tea", the ones with the droopiest blooms in my garden have been 'Madame Bravy' and "Windsor Tea". As I said elsewhere recently, that was one reason why "Windsor Tea" and I parted ways, since it was unlikely to ever be tall enough to properly display the flowers. 'Mme Bravy' has been a moderate grower but has enough stature, or prospects of it at least, for the flowers to dangle nicely.

By the way, Ingrid, after a 100-degree day yesterday, ALT still had a number of nice, full flowers today, despite the drought and a shrub looking more wan than usual from this year's relative lack of water.

Kay9, it's hard for me to envision 'Duchesse de Gramont' as a piller as I have only seen it as an incredibly prim and orderly (at every level, from each and every petal being perfectly in place on every flower to the shrub itself) 3' - 4' ball of a rose at SJHRG (haven't grown it myself). I've seen it in full bloom there looking very much like a giant snowball. From recent photos of it at SJHRG on HMF, though, it looks like "Puerto Rico" has invaded its space and had quite an impact on its once-perfect symmetry (compare the May 2014 photo to the April 2010 photo -- and look at those buds in the 2010 photo!).

Could the garden use her?

Jeri

Jeri