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| This is MME. ISAAC PEREIRE, a Bourbon rose that was hybridized by Armand Garcon in 1881 France. A classic rose MIP has a lot going for it. The blooms are extremely large for an Old Garden Rose. Adequately feed, watered and disbudded for one-rose-to-a stem you can expect the blossoms to measure 3-4 inches in width. The fragrance is INTENSE and everything you could want from a rose. To my nose the bouquet is dominated by a heavy Damask parfume overlaid with a delightful scent of ripe raspberries. The plant shows exceptional vigor and grows very well on its own roots. By her second year this ravishing rose was nearly mature. Trust me, this is unusual for an own root plant grown from a tiny band. Madame Isaac Pereire can be trained as a climber but I find you get better repeat bloom when she is kept pruned down into a manageable shrub. Her only fault is the foliage is susceptible to black spot, which is easily controllable if you're willing to apply a fungicide. This picture was taken with my Android last week. I have her growing with foxgloves and blue delphiniums. An amazing sight!
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- Posted by idixierose z8b Coastal SC (My Page) on Wed, Jun 4, 14 at 12:17
| Piling on with another photo...a little love fest for Mme. Isaac. I love your photo. Mme. IP is one of my favorites, too. You describe the fragrance perfectly. For now, one of mine is spread out on a pipe trellis and the other is on an arch. The one on the trellis blooms better, probably because the canes are bent out horizontally. Both bushes grew from cuttings I rooted. I wish the rose would rebloom more reliably. This spring, I fertilized generously after the big show and already it's reblooming a bit. I give my Madame Isaac lots of goodies throughout the season -- manure, compost, fertilizer, Super Thrive, Sea Hume, Mills mix, Miracle Gro, foliar snacks, water. By the end of summer, I cut out older and weak canes, about a third of the total canes in all. I tried pegging one bush, but didn't really have the space to pull it off, so put it on the trellis. I keep thinking Mme Isaac would be a good candidate for growing on a hitching post-type support. Bend the canes over the top bar and anchor the tips of the cane and let other canes spill over the top.
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| Beautiful! I love mine too. Right now it's nearly denuded from blackspot because I don't spray, but she'll come right back and look good. There's just this one period of the year when she comes down with BS. Lou |
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- Posted by JamieHarris1790 none (My Page) on Wed, Jun 4, 14 at 13:08
| Wow the pictures are just stunning! Thanks for sharing :) |
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- Posted by PortlandMysteryRose 8 (My Page) on Wed, Jun 4, 14 at 14:00
| I may have to sneak into my old garden or a former client's garden to snag a photo someday. I haven't planted her in my current, tiny no spray garden, but I remember her beauty and fragrance and am so pleased that you and others grow and appreciate Madame. She's singularly magnificent! Carol |
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| In Coastal Southern California, 'Mme. Isaac Pereire' mildews to a remarkable degree, while simultaneously rusting. It is also one of a very few roses which also blackspot significantly here. As with real estate -- the success of roses depends upon Location, Location, Location. I suspect she wants a bit of winter chill -- which she does not get here, poor dear. |
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| Jeri is right. Location is key. I haven't ever seen a speck of rust or mildew of MIP. Right now the foliage is clean as a whistle because I've been up on my spraying. |
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| Equally as impressive as MIP in every way is her sport, 'Madame Ernest Calvat'. I happen to prefer MEC's powdery-pink color, but mine is probably the minority opinion. I'm linking to a photo of MEC that Jeri posted long ago at HMF . . . |
Here is a link that might be useful: Madame Ernest Calvat @ HMF
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| I LOVE this rose. Sure, she gets some blackspot here (I don't spray at all) but she doesn't seem like too much of a JB magnet and the huge, blousy blooms are just spectacular. But it is the fragrance which just floors you :) I love the deep, rich raspberry scent and I am trying to train her to climb up and over my garden gate so I can see and smell those blooms every time I walk in. Just gorgeous ... mine is actually a slightly darker colour than the two photos posted here |
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- Posted by Nippstress 5-Nebraska (My Page) on Sat, Jun 7, 14 at 16:04
| MIP is also a great rose in my zone, even if she's not a very frequent rebloomer. She has a scent to die for, and she's a fast and vigorous grower, even after being cut to the ground after winter. Mine is just about to start blooming this year after a last spring, but here she is last spring after a particularly mild winter. This is just half of the bush flopping over without support, since I couldn't get the whole bush in the shot. Cynthia |
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| Gorgeous pictures, all of them, of a romantic and beautiful rose. |
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| Unfortunately I've not been so lucky with her lighter lilac-pink sport MME. ERNEST CALVAT. It got neglected in a bed full of choking weeds for a few years and has never bounced back. The plant is still alive but no higher than a foot. I blame myself more than the rose. I'm trying to take better care of her this year but the poor thing is no higher than a foot. The few blooms I did get where gorgeous and sinfully fragrant as well. |
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| Everyone's pictures of MIP are just beautiful and makes me wish I could smell her thu my computer screen. |
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| This is a wonderful rose, I love the blooms and the fragrance; it's very colorful in the garden.
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| Everyone's MIP roses are lovely! |
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- Posted by zeffyrose_pa6b7 6b7 (My Page) on Thu, Jun 26, 14 at 22:34
| Your Rose is wonderful----sure wish I had smellavision---- It looks great next to the Foxglove. Florence |
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| This is a rose I've dreamed of always. Stunning. Krista does the Madame die to ground in zone 4 or not? How cane hardy is she, till the snow line? |
This post was edited by true-blue on Fri, Jun 27, 14 at 12:13
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| These photos are gorgeous- love Mme Isaac Pereire! I also grow Mme. Ernest Calvat, whose color I prefer, with the same intoxicating fragrance, but MIP always seems to have bigger, fuller flowers. |
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| It's heartening to know that there are many other enthusiastic 'Mme Isaac Pereire' devotees around . . . For any of you who might have missed it, here's a link to an earlier thread about the quite unconventional life of the lady herself . . . |
Here is a link that might be useful: Mon Dieu! How Mlle Pereire became Mme Pereire
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| I'm in zone 5. It's normally about 4 feet tall and 3 1/2 feet wide. Typically it does not die back to the ground. After pruning it would be 2-3 feet tall. After this winter I pruned it back to 12 inches tall. Now it's two feet tall. It should regain its height over time. |
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| Thanks. I assumed the 4 after your name meant zone 4 :-) |
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- Posted by professorroush 6A (My Page) on Sat, Jun 28, 14 at 10:16
| Sorry true-blue, don't think MIP will do much in Zone 4....pretty sure she'll die to the ground. Mine did this year and I'm theoretically Zone 6, but had a Zone 4 winter. |
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| Professor, thanks for your input. Not that I have any place left to grow the Madame :-) However, it might interest you that the rose is "grown" in Montreal, including the Montreal botanical gardens. Of course that doesn't mean anything, it might as you say die to the ground or it might thrive due to a more than adequate snow cover... |
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- Posted by desertgarden561 9a/SZ11 - Las Vegas (My Page) on Sat, Jun 28, 14 at 11:28
| This rose has been in my garden for several months now, bloomed for the first time this Spring, and I am happy that I took the time to find the right spot for it. Initially, the only space I had for it was one where it received some afternoon heat, which it could not tolerate. Now it is in a large pot where it receives morning sun and it is healthy and happy. The month of July is the test for most of everything in my garden; I hope it survives. The fragrance is divine and the blooms are gorgeous! Lynn |
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| true blue - I'm in Zone 5, near Toronto, which shouldn't be too different from Quebec. I have Madame Isaac Pereire growing in my garden now, for at least several years. I would tend to agree with Krista_4 ... mine has die-back but won't die back to the ground. I don't winter protect her any more (I did the first year with mulch piled around the base) and the taller canes die back but I'd agree that after pruning it would be about 2-3 ft tall. But she will grow. She'll shoot up some nice climbing canes that will wrap up around the sides of the gate and even a little over top. Even with this harsh winter we just had, she didn't die completely to the ground, and she is recovering nicely. I always wanted this rose too, it is one of the first roses I ever wanted to get, and I'm very glad that I did :) |
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- Posted by nikthegreek 9b/10a E of Athens (My Page) on Fri, Jul 4, 14 at 2:01
| The trick to growing MIP in a hot climate is lots of water and then some more and morning sun only (as Lynn found out). Even then she might suffer from the heat a bit but she will recover come fall. In a warm climate like mine she can become quite large and unruly. Nik |
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- Posted by noseometer 7 Albuquerque (My Page) on Fri, Jul 4, 14 at 17:03
| Just planted Madame this year, and she sat around until the weather went over 80 degrees. Then the tiny plant put out buds. I can't wait until she grows. I've grown her before and in this dry climate, there were no diseases at all. At 90+ degrees, the flowers in afternoon shade last for several days (although in my old house, against a west facing wall, the flowers fried by mid-morning). I have to admit that I find the color a bit garish, but I'll get over it. |
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| Thanks cziga for the info. We have the polar vortex thingy every year, but we have a lot snow. By mid January the roses are covered by 5-6' of snow :-) |
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