While browsing HMF I came upon this photo of the non-climbing variety :-)

Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle.

I have never seen the bush form do that!

I've had what goes around as 'Cl. Cramoisi Superieur' for quite a long time indeed. It's a very fine rose! Anyway, mine is own-root, should that enter into the question. But never has mine thrown a single blossom in all its many years. The peculiarity that I've noticed is that sometimes a particular branch's flowers will each form a hip; but generally the plant as a whole is hipless.

Well, that's what I thought, Brent. ALL of the photos I can find of Cl CS are quite double, and look much like the blooms of the bush form.

I DO think this own-root plant wants to be a climber, and if it will bloom well, I will keep it, but I just can't help thinking it is misidentified.

And, it was a passalong-passalong. So I can't even go back to a nursery to question it.

If it keeps blooming single-to-semi-double, I'll maybe just give it a study name, and not worry about it. (I looked at last year's photos, and it was blooming semi-double, then.

Jeri, the second picture, above, is stunning. That color! The petals look like velvet!!!

Yes. It's stunning -- but I just cannot believe it is really Cl. Cramoisi Superieur. For one thing, these blooms are really, really tiny.

I think we'll give it a few more months, to see what it can do . . .